I'm a sportbike/scooter rider looking to get me a thumpin Supermoto. I've narrowed it down to what make I want (Husky obviously), but I am stuck on deciding between the SM 610 and the SM 510R. Im hoping you guys can shed some light and help me make my decision. I'll be comuting 5 miles to work, doing 50 mile weekend jaunts to the canyons and maybe sneak a track day or two every once in a great while. I heard the 610 is more reliable and the 510R needs its oil changed every 3 hours of riding. If that is true then I might be leaning towards the 610, but 510R's race pedigree does get me drooling. If you guys can give me the pros and cons of both that would be helpful. Thanks!
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Last edited by Realmanken; 12-03-2008 at 08:36 PM.
As the owner of a 450smr, for mostly street use, the 610 in my opinion, is a better choice. There IS a difference b/w a street bike and a track bike. While my 450 is street legal, it is quite high strung and requires lots of maint.
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As the owner of a 450smr, for mostly street use, the 610 in my opinion, is a better choice. There IS a difference b/w a street bike and a track bike. While my 450 is street legal, it is quite high strung and requires lots of maint.
+1. 610 has 2 keys, actually. one for the ignition and one for the gas cap.
As the owner of a 450smr, for mostly street use, the 610 in my opinion, is a better choice. There IS a difference b/w a street bike and a track bike. While my 450 is street legal, it is quite high strung and requires lots of maint.
What exacly do you mean by "high strung" and how much more maintenance does the 510R require over the 610? Is it more high strung then my 748R? I assume the 610 has more HP and a higher top speed over the 510R right?
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In the SM I have owned, I found that handling outweighed power, but that's just in my xperience... Is a few CCs really going to make a difference?
No, but reliability is definitely a factor. No one has addressed the reliability/maintenance issue yet. Is the SM510R really that much more demanding in terms of service maintenance? Is it really that much more less reliable on the street?
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What exacly do you mean by "high strung" and how much more maintenance does the 510R require over the 610? Is it more high strung then my 748R? I assume the 610 has more HP and a higher top speed over the 510R right?
Actually, the 510 is a bit quicker than the 610 but again, it is a race bike that is street legal. My 450 is about the same power/performance as the 610. The 610 is a much more "get on a go" bike with less worry. My 450 turns over 10,000rpm at top speed and that is a LOT for a single. I know the redline is more than that, but extended periods of 75mph and over 7000rpm tends to make one a bit weary. I change the oil every 800 miles and have heard of people changing every 300 (I think that is kind of silly) but again, the 610 is a street bike with more comfort.
The valve check/adjustment schedule is more frequent on the 450-510 as opposed to the 610. The actual adjustments on the 610 are much quicker due to their design as well. The recommended rebuild schedule is much shorter for the 450-510 as well. If it will be your commuting steed, the 610 will be a better choice. If you just want to act like a hooligan, do trackdays, and general law breaking and have the time and ability to maintain a higher maintenance bike, get the 510 or 450.
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If I wanted to do both street legal riding with a Supermoto, and have the option to do some motocrossing on the weekends could I just switch the tires out on the SM510R and then go motocrossing or would I have to change the suspension too? Is the gearing on the SM and TE the same? Im thinking of getting an SM510R so that I can have a street legal ride and then be able to easily convert it for motocross, ride the dirt, and then convert back to supermoto at the end of the day of dirt riding so I can ride it back on the street. Is this possible?
Thanks!
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For dirt read enduro, and of course it always hinges on where you are. Some places its' easier to plate off road vehicles for street use.
For Husky the word from the folks selling them is that it costs less to take a TE and get the steet wheels, brakes, etc. than going the other way with a SM model.
I'm in California, we have the strictest laws. Thats why I think it may be better to go with the SM. My only question is, what do I have to do to turn it into a TE? Is it just suspension and tires, or is it gearing to?
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Last edited by Realmanken; 12-05-2008 at 10:37 PM.
My SM610 manual has the conversion between the two just being a few buttons pressed in the god mode of the ECU to adjust for the change in wheel sizes.
My SM610 manual has the conversion between the two just being a few buttons pressed in the god mode of the ECU to adjust for the change in wheel sizes.
Would the SM510R have the same option to adjust the ECU to convert for dirt? I assume this is an on the fly push button to change modes from street to dirt? Nobody has addressed the gearing question. Do the SM510R and the TE510 have different gearing or not?
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You could alway sniff around the net and download a 510 manual. Or ask on SMJ.
Just to be clear too for anyone just joining us when you go into the ECU and flip between SM and TE you're only concern is getting the right wheel size down for the speedo and odometer readings.
Ok, I went to my Husky dealer over the weekend and talked to the service tech. Looks like you guys were right on the money. I'm not going to get the SM510 or 610. I'm getting the TE510R because thats the best way to go if you want to ride both off and on-road. I didnt want to get the TE initially because I didnt know that it was street-legal, but it is, with lights, blinkers, DOT, and everything. So TE510 it is!!!
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I'm quite happy with my 610. I couldn't see the the maintenance being worth the weight diff for a mostly street ridden bike.
btw I do track days ( and mostly commute) on my 610 and like the extra cc's. From what I've read, the 610 is 'slightly' faster straight line with equal mods.
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