There aren't any motorsports in the Olympics? What straight male who likes motorsports would favor the Olympics over a WSBK weekend in your own back yard?
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Originally Posted by mrgrn
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There aren't any motorsports in the Olympics? What straight male who likes motorsports would favor the Olympics over a WSBK weekend in your own back yard?
Why do I not find it surprising you can't relate to straight males?
That track was built for F1, nothing on two wheels can come close to drawing that type of crowd...
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Originally Posted by Jami6989
Why would anyone take a WSBK ride over a Moto2 ride? Who would rather race in front of this as opposed to the MotoGP circus. This was during the Silverstone race.
I was at the WSB race at Donnington 1996(IIRC when Corser had to ride shotgun for Froggy) when it pissed down the whole time place was packed.
I sat in complete shit @ Assen for 2 days and been to a bunch of MX Nationals @ Southwick/Broome Tioga/Unadilla where it was pissing down. If you like racing, the weather shouldn't even be considered. Otherwise, that makes you a fairweather fan.
Hell, I endured a practical tornado @ the NASCAR race on Sunday and I don't even like NASCAR racing.
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Originally Posted by mrgrn
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Problem with Silverstone is that the crowd are a long long way from the action. That allied to the fact that WSB crowds are dropping and maybe the Olympics isn't helping.
For me I'd rather be out with my sons riding than watching.
To be frank I've not watched any racing this year apart form Laguna MotoGP, most of the Supercorss some of the AMA outdoors and MXGPs, but the Olymipics has been on everyday, kids love the Athletics they are keen runners mainly long distance, cross country my 9, 10 and 13 year olds will leave me standing on a 4.5mile cross country run, but they also like high jump and long jump and seem to be taken with one of the UK female athletes.
I sat in complete shit @ Assen for 2 days and been to a bunch of MX Nationals @ Southwick/Broome Tioga/Unadilla where it was pissing down. If you like racing, the weather shouldn't even be considered. Otherwise, that makes you a fairweather fan.
Hell, I endured a practical tornado @ the NASCAR race on Sunday and I don't even like NASCAR racing.
Yep spent a few wasted weekends last winter whilst the boys raced with their local club, the result youngest got 5th in the winter champs and learnt.
Would I have gone to Silverstone no not even if it was blazing hot sun and seats were free.
I was on a short ride to Wawa, Ontario and back the last 4 days so missed the SBK racing.
1100 miles with friends on our bikes (Triumph Tiger, Buell Lightning 900 and some Star cruiser barge), impromptu swims in lake Superior on the ride up there when the weather got too hot, lots of beers and BS in the evenings.
IOW, better than watching racing from the couch, or from the stands for that matter. I still watch all the SBK and MGP races (and QP) when I can, but if the racing continues to be so relatively boring, it'll go the way of F1 for me. I used to watch every F1 race, live on Satelite from South Africa at any time of the day or night....now I don't even know which teams or drivers are racing, who is the world champ, etc. Totally switched off, due to boredom with it. :-(
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I was on a short ride to Wawa, Ontario and back the last 4 days so missed the SBK racing.
1100 miles with friends on our bikes (Triumph Tiger, Buell Lightning 900 and some Star cruiser barge), impromptu swims in lake Superior on the ride up there when the weather got too hot, lots of beers and BS in the evenings.
IOW, better than watching racing from the couch, or from the stands for that matter. I still watch all the SBK and MGP races (and QP) when I can, but if the racing continues to be so relatively boring, it'll go the way of F1 for me. I used to watch every F1 race, live on Satelite from South Africa at any time of the day or night....now I don't even know which teams or drivers are racing, who is the world champ, etc. Totally switched off, due to boredom with it. :-(
have you posted impressions of the Tiger yet?
back in the day of the mid-90's if you read a Triumph test is was always a Speed Triple or Daytona, Tiger never got much love. As a result, finding real experiences on an interesting bike like these early Bloor trumphs is tough.
I was at the WSB race at Donnington 1996(IIRC when Corser had to ride shotgun for Froggy) when it pissed down the whole time place was packed.
I was at the 'Irish' round of WSBK in '93, at 'Clearways' at Brands Hatch and it literally threw it down from the time the superbikes took to the track and continued for the remainder of the day.
Falappa and Russell really gave a demonstration of wet weather riding that day.
How I laughed as, on lap one, Fogarty threw it up the road and showered me with gravel, ending his racing day right then and there.
The bodywork from the Duke was thrown over the fence by the marshals, I promptly threw it back:it was never going to fit my Ninja,
Most of the day I was stood at trackside with helmet on to keep some of the rain out, but the entertainment value outweighed the attrocious weather.
Sadly, the series has priced itself out of my budget these days.
$80 just to get into the track on race day ........ forget that !
I was at the 'Irish' round of WSBK in '93, at 'Clearways' at Brands Hatch and it literally threw it down from the time the superbikes took to the track and continued for the remainder of the day.
Falappa and Russell really gave a demonstration of wet weather riding that day.
How I laughed as, on lap one, Fogarty threw it up the road and showered me with gravel, ending his racing day right then and there.
The bodywork from the Duke was thrown over the fence by the marshals, I promptly threw it back:it was never going to fit my Ninja,
Most of the day I was stood at trackside with helmet on to keep some of the rain out, but the entertainment value outweighed the attrocious weather.
Sadly, the series has priced itself out of my budget these days.
$80 just to get into the track on race day ........ forget that !
I used to regularly go to Brands to watch WSB till it became popular the crunch for me came about 95 IIRC I had a broken leg and had to share the track with 150,000 being in a cast my mates got me into the grandstand everytime the leaders came past everybody stood up cheering for Foggarty all I saw was backs whereas when everyone sat down I could see to clearways.
Foggy was (still is a dick) and could ride for shit in the rain IMO.
back in the day of the mid-90's if you read a Triumph test is was always a Speed Triple or Daytona, Tiger never got much love. As a result, finding real experiences on an interesting bike like these early Bloor trumphs is tough.
It's a bit early, as I've only ridden the thing a few times, and did this one little trip.
While this is terribly OT to the thread, I'll mention quickly some immediate impressions.....
1. Very smooth and nice motor, but with some fluffiness of response from around 3k RPM - probably due to poor map installed or the K&N filter.
2. More economical than I expected. Easy 50 MPG (small US gallons!) so a range up around 300 miles, at roughly 70 MPH cruising speed.
3. VERY comfortable, fairly long travel (8") suspension, especially the rear shock/spring really soaks up the frost heaves and dips and holes in the road. Feels fairly well damped too, which is surprising as I felt the rebound damping might be too lightwhen doing the simple bounce test. Nice, easy spring preload adjuster on the rear (10mm bolt accessed easily under the seat)
4. Very nice panniers - a fair amount of volume, and pretty well tucked-in. Good, easy, strong detachable mounting system. Don't think the panniers would last a hard fall though.
5. Comfortable ergos. Nice, easily adjustable seat-height feature. I set the seat to the highest position, due to slightly tight legroom from seat to the pegs. The factory gel seat is not much improvement on the stock seat. I also use an "Alaska Leather" seat pad, which always works great for me.
6. Wind management - not bad, but also not remarkable. The stock screen seems to give some buffeting, and the bike does feel side winds a little more than I expected, but nothing to be concerned about. I may try drilling a few 2" holes in the base of the stock screen, to reduce the vortex behind the screen.
7. Handling - pretty decent. Lighter than expected. Nicely flickable for the weight and height of the bike. Rear damping perhaps just a touch too light to prevent a small amount of heavy-load weave in the high-speed sweepers - but nothing unmanageable.
8. Maintenance - need to remove the tank and airbox for many tasks, which is a chore. Easy enough, but it's definitely no Ducati 996 in terms of being designed for quick access!
Need to remove tank to clean/change the airfilter and plugs, check valves etc.
Valve adjustments at 12K miles were all in spec except for 1 loose valve and 1 tight valve - not bad. Shims are the relatively common 25mm shims as used by Kawasaki, Honda, etc.
Fuel filter - expensive but a cheap $3 filter from Autozone fits perfectly.
Oil filter - I installed a bigger, longer, Mobil M1 oil filter (M1-110).
Air filter - poor access (under tank, so needs removal) and expensive.
Oil - Use M1 10W-40 or any equivalent synth. No biggie.
Chain - my bike came with an overly tight chain, despite being serviced by dealer according to the PO. I rode it for a while before confirming the slack was insufficient. Need to check the c/shaft bearing and wheel hub bearings and seals for damage/roughess. :-(
The chain adjuster is NICE - no need to loosen the axle. Simply loosen one 6mm allen bolt on each side of the rotating offset-cam adjuster clamping system and rotate the entire axle assembly to adjust the chain. Takes seconds, and no need to worry about wheel alignment.
I found that a great way to adjust the chain perfectly is to loosen the two allen bolts, rotate the adjuster assembly to a "too tight" position for the chain, and then bounce up and down on the bike. The chain will rotate the adjuster to the correct tension automatically! Simply tighten the two allen bolts and you're done in about 90 seconds total!
Overall, it seems a pretty decent bike. Solid, sounds great, good ergos, great fuel consumption and range, comfortable suspension and quality finish. Perhaps it's a little dull compared to a Guzzi, and a little less "cerebral" than the GS, and too heavy compared to the KTM, but I think it's a keeper. Lots of value, for the price on the used market!
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Not completely OT, the Tiger was made in the UK, and the race was in Silverstone!
You will find the Triumphs from that time (I had an '02 Daytona) are built like tanks. There seems to be 50% more bolts holding things together than Ducati.
Not completely OT, the Tiger was made in the UK, and the race was in Silverstone!
You will find the Triumphs from that time (I had an '02 Daytona) are built like tanks. There seems to be 50% more bolts holding things together than Ducati.
No kidding....I started to get dizzy loosening all the bolts covering the fuel pump/filter assembly on the Tiger. Round and round I went, with the wrench! There must be about a dozen, compared to, what, three on the Ducati? :-)
Same thing with the engine case covers - way, wayyy too many bolts.
I believe that Triumph did not have the Finite Modeling knowledge to understand how strong to make these things back in the late 80's when they were designing the "new" Triumph and wanted at all costs to build reliable motors and compete with the Japanese on the world market again....so they overbuilt everything. That's just fine with me.
The newer Triumphs are less obviously overbuilt, so I guess they're learning what the Japanese have known for some time, and even Ducati has started to understand.
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No kidding....I started to get dizzy loosening all the bolts covering the fuel pump/filter assembly on the Tiger. Round and round I went, with the wrench! There must be about a dozen, compared to, what, three on the Ducati? :-)
Same thing with the engine case covers - way, wayyy too many bolts.
I believe that Triumph did not have the Finite Modeling knowledge to understand how strong to make these things back in the late 80's when they were designing the "new" Triumph and wanted at all costs to build reliable motors and compete with the Japanese on the world market again....so they overbuilt everything. That's just fine with me.
The newer Triumphs are less obviously overbuilt, so I guess they're learning what the Japanese have known for some time, and even Ducati has started to understand.
One of the early Bloor Triumphs should go 100k, 200k miles easy. They seem seriously overbuilt. Anything pre-Bonneville and 675. Not sure about the 675, although when tuned they sometimes grenade.
There was a decent crowd at Indy MotoGP when a hurricane was coming.
There must be about a dozen, compared to, what, three on the Ducati? :-)
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