in the wet it would appear so! I think you missed the point.
Your point was that Rossi got a podium in the wet so it's the bike's fault he can't win in the dry. And I countered with Vermeulen WON in the wet. Maybe it was his bike's fault he couldn't win in the dry also?
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I bet there were some great 50% off sales on Rossi/Ducati trinkets and gear though.
I don't know what they were charging, but the offical VR46 merchandise booth looked to be about the size of a funnel cake trailer at a county fair. I seem to recall them vending out of a full size tractor trailer in years past.
I don't know what they were charging, but the offical VR46 merchandise booth looked to be about the size of a funnel cake trailer at a county fair. I seem to recall them vending out of a full size tractor trailer in years past.
That's what happens when you don't win for 680 days.
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So now there're tweats by the Spanish mag Solo Moto, regarding a potential link between Furusawa and Ducati! Hell, if anything comes of that, we may see some damned results at last, and Preziosi relegated to Diavel development updates.
Anyone know how to translate into English in IE? Yeah, work computer..... :-(
Yea, but the GOAT became the greatest when he only had to beat Gibernau, Melandri and Capirossi... Ever since Stoner, Pedrosa and Lorenzo came onto the scene Rossi's domination over the field came to a screeching halt.
Everybody ages and with age comes a degradation of natural reflexes and ability not to mention longer times for healing injuries. I remember last year at Laguna watching the podium ceremonies and regarded it as a changing of the guard. Do you know what was different this year on the podium? NOTHING...
I forget if it was Rainey or Lawson who commented on Rossi's timing and among other things noted his timing in entering MGP when the field was bereft of real talent. People will post up no doubt the number of world champs on the grid at the time but their competitiveness was nothing like the era before and now.
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Seems weird that Rossi likely remains the highest paid MGP rider, by far, even in 2013, if he decides to stay at Ducati. The folks that count with their money seem to think he offers value, unless they just feel really, really philanthropic towards the guy.
At least three Speedzillers know better, eh! Rocking geniuses at work here.
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Seems weird that Rossi likely remains the highest paid MGP rider, by far, even in 2013, if he decides to stay at Ducati. The folks that count with their money seem to think he offers value, unless they just feel really, really philanthropic towards the guy.
At least three Speedzillers know better, eh! Rocking geniuses at work here.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do wonder what the hell Ducati is thinking some of the time. If they weren't ready to actually make changes to the bike, why hire Rossi? You only hire him (or Lorenzo/Pedrosa) if the bike can actually make the podium, or you're willing to commit the resources to get there. And Ducati have done neither, and managed to look completely incompetent.
In some ways they might be better off with Nicky Hayden and another rider, if they want to show up with a POS bike and not have their rider constantly pointing out it's 1 second off the pace.
To to original question, is it bike or rider? I say he showed it was rider when he moved to Yamaha and won, and then bike, with his move to Ducati and failing... So I would say it is inconclusive.... But we all already knew that!
Seems weird that Rossi likely remains the highest paid MGP rider, by far, even in 2013, if he decides to stay at Ducati. The folks that count with their money seem to think he offers value, unless they just feel really, really philanthropic towards the guy.
At least three Speedzillers know better, eh! Rocking geniuses at work here.
They can bid whatever they want to throw away to try to remain relevant. It doesn't take away from the fact that $4mm was the next highest offer to ride a bike that HE wants to ride. Of course he'll sell out and take the money, they always do. Just doesn't make it a great investment by a company who just fell into more cash than they know what to do with. He ruined the bike, the least they can do is pay him to fix it now.
I'm sure Danny Webb took more money to ride the POS Mahindra bike. Wasn't such a good idea in hind sight, was it?
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do wonder what the hell Ducati is thinking some of the time. If they weren't ready to actually make changes to the bike, why hire Rossi? You only hire him (or Lorenzo/Pedrosa) if the bike can actually make the podium, or you're willing to commit the resources to get there. And Ducati have done neither, and managed to look completely incompetent.
Because Ducati has their head so far up their ass they they really did completely discount Stoner, his ability and his input about the bike. They felt that he was just a whiny bitch prima donna & that if he could get the results that he achieved on the bike with his ability or their perceived lack there of then obviously a better rider like Rossi could do more.
Ultimately Ducati gets it wrong most of the time and the only thing that really saved their ass in MotoGP was Stoner's talent.
To to original question, is it bike or rider? I say he showed it was rider when he moved to Yamaha and won, and then bike, with his move to Ducati and failing... So I would say it is inconclusive.... But we all already knew that!
If it was the rider when Rossi went to Yamaha then why did they have carte blanche to redesign the M1 chassis (basically into a Honda) at Burgess's discretion written into the contract?
If it was the rider when Rossi went to Yamaha then why did they have carte blanche to redesign the M1 chassis (basically into a Honda) at Burgess's discretion written into the contract?
Wait, so he's NOT the King of Development?
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You really don't grasp technology well, do you?
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