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Has anyone heard anything about what Rossi had to say specifically about the Ducati after riding it? Was just curious as to what he liked and disliked about the bike. Seems that the Duc boys liked the way he communicated the feedback data to them, like they have never heard it put into terms such as his? Guess the winter weather is setting in on me, and I'm getting restless or something?...
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"For sure we've understood that to make the Ducati turn, you need a bigger effort than what Valentino was used to, physically too, and we didn't expect that. This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."
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Rossi quote, 2010 "Now the M1 is *maybe* the best bike in MotoGP"

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Has anyone heard anything about what Rossi had to say specifically about the Ducati after riding it? Was just curious as to what he liked and disliked about the bike. Seems that the Duc boys liked the way he communicated the feedback data to them, like they have never heard it put into terms such as his? Guess the winter weather is setting in on me, and I'm getting restless or something?...
Rossi is unable to say anything about the desmo until 1/1/12.
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"This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."
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"For sure we've understood that to make the Ducati turn, you need a bigger effort than what Valentino was used to, physically too, and we didn't expect that. This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."
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I believe he is under a gag order, part of his being able to test the Duc at Valencia.
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Rossi quote, 2010 "Now the M1 is *maybe* the best bike in MotoGP"

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You obviously didn't watch the test footage, I'd say he was anything but confident on the Ducati. It wobbled like crazy when leaned over and looked terrifying to ride.

Rossi is a good development rider and if they listen to him they could make the bike closer to the Yamaha in the handling department, but who knows how long that will take to fix.
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Rossi is a good development rider and if they listen to him they could make the bike closer to the Yamaha in the handling department, but who knows how long that will take to fix.
True... Rossi is good at development... Furusawa listened to him and they
turned around Yamaha's terrible no hoper into something that handle
fantastic like the Honda...

Quote MASAMO FURUSAWA

"I would like to thank Valentino Rossi. I was in charge of Yamaha
MotoGp starting 2003 and it was a terrible year, almost like I was in
hell and I wanted to make the YZR M1 a better bike but more and more I
investigate the bike I needed something else more than the bike. So I
found Valentino Rossi pretty close to me but the first time I did not
believe Valentino would come to Yamaha because Yamaha was a terrible
bike and Honda was a fantastic bike.
The after we invite Valentino to
Yamaha we finally come up from the ground and then after South Africa
in 2004 I felt like I was almost in heaven. So from hell to heaven
very exciting and memorable year. So in 2004 only Valentino Rossi
could win with the YZR M1 so he contribute a lot to develop the YZR
M1. This year not only Valentino but also 3 riders run fast so this
year our YZR M1 is a pretty good bike mainly Valentino contribute so I
really appreciate that Valentino contributes.

"Basically the engineer design the bike but the rider talks a lot and
even though the rider talks a lot Valentino is special. He is almost
like analyizer or engineer and we talk with each other so frequently
but timing is a little bit different but talking the same. he is so
precise, we always check the computer with data, sometimes I make
mistake, always Valentino is correct."
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i'm curious to see what hayden will do once he's back on rossi's bike
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i'm curious to see what hayden will do once he's back on rossi's bike
He won on Dani's bike so he was probably hoping Dani and Stoner switched seats for next year.
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He won on Dani's bike so he was probably hoping Dani and Stoner switched seats for next year.

dani was riding rossis bike. we all know the 211 was rossi through and through.
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dani was riding rossis bike. we all know the 211 was rossi through and through.
Rossi had been gone for three years by the end of 2006, I am fairly sure hayden was not on "Rossi's" bike. Actually, hayden was doing the development that year in preparation for the 800cc bike. Many significant differences in 2006 between Hayden's bike and the other Hondas.
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Rossi can't comment on the bike til after the new year as per his contract but Burgess talks a little about the bike and the test here:

Rossi Requires Sweeter Handling Ducati |
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When Burgess speaks people listen...

Evaluating the Yamaha M1 after 2 wins 1 pole 0 championships...
"We identified fairly early what the problems were. The bike was developed by
two very good 250 riders. No slur on them, but what you want for a big bike,
a 500 or a four stroke, is something different. All bikes operate within a
circle, and the circle wasn't anywhere near where I felt it should
be...
To ride one of these things, you need to have enough feel to get
the bike to slide; you must be able to feel your way into a slide and
then back out again safely."

Evaluating the Ducati after 23 wins 21 poles 1 Championship
"For sure we've understood that to make the Ducati turn, you need a bigger
effort than what Valentino was used to, physically too, and we didn't expect
that. This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the
required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."

“The Ducati is more physical to ride than the Japanese bikes and
turning the bike is one of our issues we need to improve,” You have to
force it a little more and that probably added some stress that we
didn’t expect to be there. We didn’t want to push into any areas of
risk.

Which one sounds closer to the mark???


“But Valentino said the bike has fantastic rear grip and that the engine is terrific.”

Rossi likes his first impression of the Big Bang V4 with the 360º crank...

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dani was riding rossis bike. we all know the 211 was rossi through and through.
I bet you still think the Honda is Rossi's bike? Hayden was riding Pedrosa's bike, just ask him. The bike was designed around Pedro and by the time Hayden was crowned, Rossi had not ridden the bike for almost 3 years. Rossi's bike. Hysterical!
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Rossi can't comment on the bike til after the new year as per his contract but Burgess talks a little about the bike and the test here:

Rossi Requires Sweeter Handling Ducati |
Seems he's learning first-hand all about the importance of the CYCLE part of the word "motorcycle". Mind you, he can be forgiven for having forgotten, certain members of this forum (one in particular) still haven't figured that part out, this despite hundreds, nay thousands, of efforts at trying to educate them....
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It was the defection of Rossi and Burgess from Honda to Yamaha in 2004 that turned the once unloved M1 into MotoGP’s best all-around package and most consistent race winner.

“The Ducati is more physical to ride than the Japanese bikes and turning the bike is one of our issues we need to improve,” Burgess explained. “You have to force it a little more and that probably added some stress that we didn’t expect to be there. We didn’t want to push into any areas of risk."
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It was the defection of Rossi and Burgess from Honda to Yamaha in 2004 that turned the once unloved M1 into MotoGP’s best all-around package and most consistent race winner.
True... the M1 became the best package and consistent race winner despite the I4 sporting less advantages than a V4...
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The Yamaha M1 is the best all-around package and most consistent race winner.
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"For sure we've understood that to make the Ducati turn, you need a bigger effort than what Valentino was used to, physically too, and we didn't expect that. This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."
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The Yamaha M1 is the best all-around package and most consistent race winner.
Sadly, you can bold it, change the font, double underline, heck even spell it out in quasi-blinding neon lights, Fester still won't be able to "get it". Just think, here is a guy who has managed to totally ignore the bike's unparalleled race success over the years. Worse yet, he holds steadfastly onto the belief that not only was the RC45 a great race bike, but that it was a "game changer"....

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