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Old 03-09-2010, 02:18 PM
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Thank you... if I didn't have the magazines and company executives
support... I would be written off as delusional...
Larry, let's not go crazy here. The company executives are from the company that built the motorcycle you are obsessed with. They need to justify the inordinate cost of a relative market place, and competition failure as much as you need to justify your fixation. The magazine articles are written to, drum roll please, fill the pages of magazines. 12 issues a month covering a fairly limited topic and competing with 3 or 4 other sport bike, race bike publications nationally. In addition the V4 bias seems to be a particularly English one, they too have trouble letting go of the past.
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A funny image is BSL scurrying through OLD mags whenever someone disagrees with him . He thinks of the V4's putative superiority as self evident like a mathematical proof or the fact that humans need oxygen . It's simply an engine config with pros and CONS beyond just price which he cites as the only possible reason that every oem hasn't adopted it . Btw , another thread bites the dust , and it's true , WE are to blame .
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Larry, did you hear that there is some thought as to Aprilia cheating in WSBK?
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:01 PM
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^ . And one last point : Considering the fact that Yamaha's crossplane is already regarded as an engineering breakthrough/masterpiece , imagine what accolades it'll receive 20 years from now when its significance as an historical game changer in ss design is truly appreciated . This kind of questioning of orthodoxy is what Honda used to do . The early torque of a twin , the mid-range of a triple , the top-end rush of a four , simple packaging , front weight bias , and that growl ... beautiful .
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Larry, did you hear that there is some thought as to Aprilia cheating in WSBK?
Yes I did Old... I think this says it all because V4s have the advantage of
making the most HP because they sport less internal friction than a I4 and
sport more valve area than a V2...

Quote Motorcycle USA:
"Despite rival teams clearly not wanting Aprilia to gain any further advantage
in the engine department – the RSV4 is already the fastest bike in the
championship – no protests were lodged at the end of the race."
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Yes I did Old... I think this says it all because V4s have the advantage of
making the most HP because they sport less internal friction than a I4 and
sport more valve area than a V2...

Quote Motorcycle USA:
"Despite rival teams clearly not wanting Aprilia to gain any further advantage
in the engine department – the RSV4 is already the fastest bike in the
championship – no protests were lodged at the end of the race."
I found it quite odd that Aprilia's new sponsor is Alitalia, a bottomless pit airline that is only kept flying on taxpayer-supported government handouts.....lousy company with no viable business model and no future. I sure hope that Aprilia got their sponsorship money in cash up front....or those sponsor logos are just peel-off film.
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Actually my point was to not turn this thread as most of your posts do into another frickin V4 advertising indoctrination.

It's like people not wanting to hear the merits of a Walter engine in a chipmunk. Capice? You know, roll rate of a flat versus inline?
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From what I have read Aprilia are not cheating per se. Classic move though to build a bike for sale and an expensive race kit for it to be competitive. Very much like Ducati and Honda have done in years past. Not to say other makes are not doing it but certain manufacturers seem to do it better than others.
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From what I have read Aprilia are not cheating per se. Classic move though to build a bike for sale and an expensive race kit for it to be competitive. Very much like Ducati and Honda have done in years past. Not to say other makes are not doing it but certain manufacturers seem to do it better than others.
Sheet, you ought to check out Yamaha's race catalogue.....radiators to pistons.....hell everybody does it......this was a nonevent, no one protested it cuz they all do it.
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You know, roll rate of a flat versus inline?
I'll take the inline.
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Actually my point was to not turn this thread as most of your posts do into another frickin V4 advertising indoctrination.

It's like people not wanting to hear the merits of a Walter engine in a chipmunk. Capice? You know, roll rate of a flat versus inline?
There should be a law against sticking a opposed engine in a Chipmunk... it
messes up the clean lines with ugly cheeks... oh the humanity!!!





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So what. They cheated.
The Duc ran a bike that wasn't homologated for the street.
Called 1098, raced as a 1200... or something to that effect... who gives a shit about a cam drive... why don't we just give them another 100cc's to work with and call it even?
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