^ Now why did you go and mention the RC51 , reminding us that BSL hates twins (even the ultra-successful Honda example) almost as much as he hates I-4's ?
BSL does not hate... BSL loves the battle of engine architectures and my
money is on the race bred V4... I've raced / tracked / toured / on one... can
anyone here say the same???
Have you read your posts ?! Your money is on the V4 ; to do what ? Wait on the sidelines as Yamaha continues to win championships ? And even more pathetically , you actually don't give a sh!t about V4's other than the RC45 . Hell , since you can't face the truth that the RC51's racing success dwarfs the '45's , then how about the fact that the Honda V5 was FAR more successful than the '45 . Why aren't you pitching an altar to the V5 ? Oh I forgot , b/c you don't own one .
Suzuki GSX-R750 1988 1995
187 races 2 wins 0 championships .010% starts to wins percentile...
New 8,999 used 3,200
It may not have quite had the success of the exotic homologated
specials but the Gixxer has lasted the lot of them... the problem
with Suzuki's effort is that it was just too much of a streebike...
the aluminum frame could only cope with road engine so slap in a
WSB spec mill and it just threw in the towel... But on the road
it developed a massive following which continues today...
Honda RC45 1994 to 1999...
172 races 33 wins 1 championship .19% start to win percentile...
The RC45 was expensive and successful because it is the closest thing
to a million dollar RVF750 Formula 1 works bike you can buy... some
still believe the RC45 is a waste on money but they are proven
wrong... but if you think the GSXR750 is a better bike then go out and
buy one... bring it to California and we'll see how it stacks up
against Mr.RC45... other than that... What sort of personality defect
puts up a bike that they don't think is good enough to own themselves
and then pits that phantom bike against my real bike???
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What? Those stats are meaningless since they do not reflect any World Endurance, TT F1, AMA, BSB, or Japanese championships. Never mind club racing, WERA, and other national championships. Get real. I've been to California, like the weather. How would know what bikes I own or don't own, have owned or want to own. Your real bike in your hands does not represent reality, except in your mind Larry. Once again violating copy rights and scanning magazine articles as if that means something is comical. As I've stated before Larry, if you would just contribute to the community without all the I4 hate we would all just get along.....
Suzuki GSX-R750 1988 1995
187 races 2 wins 0 championships .010% starts to wins percentile...
New 8,999 used 3,200
It may not have quite had the success of the exotic homologated
specials but the Gixxer has lasted the lot of them... the problem
with Suzuki's effort is that it was just too much of a streebike...
the aluminum frame could only cope with road engine so slap in a
WSB spec mill and it just threw in the towel... But on the road
it developed a massive following which continues today...
Honda RC45 1994 to 1999...
172 races 33 wins 1 championship .19% start to win percentile...
The RC45 was expensive and successful because it is the closest thing
to a million dollar RVF750 Formula 1 works bike you can buy... some
still believe the RC45 is a waste on money but they are proven
wrong... but if you think the GSXR750 is a better bike then go out and
buy one... bring it to California and we'll see how it stacks up
against Mr.RC45... other than that... What sort of personality defect
puts up a bike that they don't think is good enough to own themselves
and then pits that phantom bike against my real bike???
What? Those stats are meaningless since they do not reflect any World Endurance, TT F1, AMA, BSB, or Japanese championships. Never mind club racing, WERA, and other national championships. Get real. I've been to California, like the weather. How would know what bikes I own or don't own, have owned or want to own. Your real bike in your hands does not represent reality, except in your mind Larry. Once again violating copy rights and scanning magazine articles as if that means something is comical. As I've stated before Larry, if you would just contribute to the community without all the I4 hate we would all just get along.....[/quote]
not to bat for larry 100% here but FWIW
i have learned more from larry's contributions in a day then any of yours posts combined in all of your time here
i don't like the v4 banter daily at times but at least it is not boring racers threads
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
Wow. I have also learned nothing from you. But a bit about you. Glad you posted up. The stats are still meaningless and Larry still doesn't know anything about me, my bikes, but he does like his. Which is fine as it should be.
Wow. I have also learned nothing from you. But a bit about you. Glad you posted up. The stats are still meaningless and Larry still doesn't know anything about me, my bikes, but he does like his. Which is fine as it should be.
you are some witch hunt about his V4 drivel in every thread, it looks silly you all cozy on him
this is a v4 type thread and you thought larry would not be here
just place him on ignore and move on and stop complaining about him when you a option out
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
I see your command of the English language has improved. Thanks for the advice. In this instance I will keep my own counsel and post as I please. Same as Larry and you.
I see your command of the English language has improved. Thanks for the advice. In this instance I will keep my own counsel and post as I please. Same as Larry and you.
i never had any command of inglish, i am flattered. thank you for the compliments
fine but please stop your whining about larry in every thread, it is playyed
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
Mr.Honda's V4s have been *their* most successful engine configuration in
WSBK... fact is the V2 is no longer a part of Honda's world racing plans
whereas the V4 is...
Mr.Honda's V4s have been the most successful engine configuration in
WSBK... fact is the V2 is no longer a part of Honda's world racing plans
whereas the V4 is...
Honda WSBK wins by engine configuration...
V4 3
V2 2
I4 1
You need to be a bit more objective when you read history. The V4 was Honda's most successful engine configuration, not THE most successful in WSBK.
Larry, a more honest comparison would be to list all championships and race wins for both bikes during their respective production runs. You see my point. That would be in all significant National and World series. Not to cherry pick the years and wins that suit your argument. Those are skewed statistics. In addition your argument is facetious since it is sometimes V4 vs I4 and sometimes RC45 vs GSXR750, and sometimes RC45 vs all motorcycles. Fun but tiresome and repetitive.
the kit is available and for sale. it can be bought from AF1 if you want it, among other dealers. go to the AF1 forums. there is a topic about it there as well. not sure why its not allowed when the kit exists and is available.
Yes, gear driven cams are indeed part of the official Aprilia parts catalog for the RSV4, sold either as an individual parts item or as part of a more extensive racing package.
But never let reality get in the way of a good internet bashing discussion here on Squidzilla!
Yes, gear driven cams are indeed part of the official Aprilia parts catalog for the RSV4, sold either as an individual parts item or as part of a more extensive racing package.
But never let reality get in the way of a good internet bashing discussion here on Squidzilla!
The bike's engine was originally designed as a gear driven cam machine but they decided to substitute chain driven for the first year's models.....kind of like car mfrs do with their new products, deliberately leave off some feature so that they can say the next year in big bold type.....NOW WITH ABS STANDARD or some such to maintain buzz about their product.
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Counting the years the RC45 raced (94 to 99) the GSXR750 won what???
here is your comparison to reflect on...
GSXR750
99 AMA Superbike champion
97 World Endurance Championship title
Honda RC45
94 1st Suzuka 8 Hours...
95 1st World Endurance...
1st Isle of Man TT F1
1st AMA Superbike
1st Suzuka 8 Hours
96 1st Isle of Man TT F1
1st Isle of Man Senior
1st Dayton 200
97 1st World Superbike
1st Isle of Man TT F1
1st Isle of Man Senior
1st Suzuka 8 hours
98 1st World Endurance
1st Isle of Man TT F1
1st Isle of Man Senior
1st AMA Superbike
1st Macau GP
1st Suzuka 8 hours
99 1st Dayton 200
1st Suzuka 8 hours
99 1st Ulster Gp
6 years, an insane amount of money, and the best racers of their time and that is all they could accomplish? You need to let it go--it's over. The bike is an antique at this stage in the game. Honda walked away from the platform over a decade ago practically dismissing it as a failure. It's almost as if you equate championships with individual races.....Just out of curiosity, concerning WSBK championships, what were the results when Honda pitted is RC45 up against Ducati's substandard V2?
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