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Old 03-03-2010, 01:56 AM
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one year the japanese dont make the top 3 and suddenly theyre not being objective?
Of course they aren't being objective. No one could build a bike better than the Japanese.

Or could they?

Lastly: Am I the only one who finds the RSV4 "not that attractive"?
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:58 AM
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Well they could have tested the 2010 GSXR......oh, wait, they don't exist...never mind.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:45 AM
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You do understand that 95% of the people that buy one of them will NEVER even use the 190hp the bike has! I do understand that "It's better to have the "NEED" then need the "NEED" and not have" but lets get real here! I get a kick out of everyone saying they need one of these things when no one will really even ride it to it's full potential! What a joke! I still say the 1098/1198 is by far the better looking bike with the RSV4R a close second....but thats my opion!
Bullocks but you're entitled to your whiny little opinion!

I agree with you if we're talking street riders but those seeking to wring it's little neck on the track, not so much. For me, it's not about the 180+HP, it's about the hi tech electronics......and please, this thing is going to walk on the 1098/1198.


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Well they could have tested the 2010 GSXR......oh, wait, they don't exist...never mind.
Not here they dont but they sure do in Europe!!!

They're even celebrating their 25th anniversary with a special edition.

GSX-R 25TH ANNIVERSARY / SUZUKI
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Old 03-03-2010, 03:08 AM
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Frank....your '05 looks a damned sight better than that thing with a NOPI fartcan hanging off it.....guess we aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate such noveau designs.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:37 AM
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That BMW is one of the best stock bikes I have ridden at least for street use.

The Germans built a bike that looks like a GSXR got lost in the Aprilia factory and handles like a 1000RR that has been given about 25% more agility.

Monster power output, I mean friggin massive amount of mostly linear power output, but in my opinion it is slow to rev. The bike had 159 miles on it when I first got to throw a leg over it and I was not impressed with the brakes at all, but I *cough ahem* guess I bedded them in pretty good because by the end of the ride they were really working well in fact that brings me to the only real fault I can mention about this bike. When using the brakes aggressively it really ties itself in knots... It seemed to get better when I shut down the ABS and Traction Control (DTC) and along with that the hooligan factor went up (literally) about 75%. You see the DTC system also has built in WHEELIE CONTROL. This can be adjusted in 4 different modes RAIN, SPORT, RACE & special SLICK mode that has to be manually unlocked before it can be selected. The RAIN mode cuts the power & adjusts the ABS/DTC accordingly, the SPORT mode uses full power and also adjusts the ABS/DTC inputs accordingly & RACE mode again full power, but a more aggressive ABS/DTC algorithm that incorporates a high lean angle baseline. In SPORT mode wheelies just aren't gonna happen and while I didn't try it in RACE mode I believe it allows for a 5 second wheelie before it cuts in and settles the front back down (although that might be SLICK mode) as again I didn't try to test it in any mode other than SPORT at least not until I shut the DTC off and then it wheelied like a big dog as soon as the tach hit about 9000.

Purely as a streetbike it is truly amazing... I didn't even adjust a single setting on the suspension which made for a rougher ride than I would like, but hey this is a sportbike afterall not a Goldwing. The DOT Metzeler Racetec tires were slightly overinflated for spirited riding too, but the bike was amazingly stable and so nimble to flick around. High speed 100+ sweepers to 30 mph hair pins. Uphill & down the mountain it really inspired confidence. Now don't misconstrue I rode it a little aggressively to get acquainted with it, but since I was on the street there is still 1/2" pussy stripes on both sides of the rear tire, but then again if you have seen me ride the track over the last few years you know how ridiculously far I lean off the bike to keep it from having to lean for me (learned that style from Nate Kern ) which brings me to another point. With the wide tank and nice ergonomics (for a sportbike) it feels like a 1000RR...

I think for the track it might need a little bit of trail added to it and I can't even fathom how good some Ohlins kit will improve this already very nice handling machine, but I sure hope Dan lets me get it out on the track at some point because I have feeling that is where it will shine the most.

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Old 03-03-2010, 08:55 AM
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Wow, an I4 on top.... oh Larry?
Good... now maybe you'll be interested in an I4...
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:15 AM
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Not here they dont but they sure do in Europe!!!

They're even celebrating their 25th anniversary with a special edition.

GSX-R 25TH ANNIVERSARY / SUZUKI
Geebus what are they celebrating; the great bike the GSXR is or the worst colour schemes known to man? Why didn't they just go back to those Baja California colour schemes of the late 80's or better yet Vanilla Ice's GSXR from his rebel without a clue movie ripoff.

25th Anniversary should have been celebrated right - a limited edition GSXR with the original GSXR750RR colour scheme.
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I agree with you if we're talking street riders but those seeking to wring it's little neck on the track, not so much. For me, it's not about the 180+HP, it's about the hi tech electronics......and please, this thing is going to walk on the 1098/1198.





Like I said, 95% of the people will NEVER even come close to using this bikes power!

What good is the "hi tech" electronics if your not using the bike to it's full potential? Traction control isnt going to work at 35 mph!

My point is.....it's a great bike, and it would be fun to have one! But I'm not running out to buy one just because it's "master bike"!
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Old 03-03-2010, 03:21 PM
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one year the japanese dont make the top 3 and suddenly theyre not being objective?

pssst! dont look now... youre totally exposing your biased opinion
Nah , I love all three bikes . It's just that MB tends to ... ahem ... slant the Euro way if at all possible .
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They're even celebrating their 25th anniversary with a special edition.

GSX-R 25TH ANNIVERSARY / SUZUKI
I thought that color scheme looked familiar:
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Am I the only one who finds the RSV4 "not that attractive"?

nope, I think it's ugly as all shit. mostly the front.

but I like the BMWs looks, I like the 999, (with the second fairing design) and I like the current CBR1k. so I guess my taste could be considered out of the ordinary.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:02 PM
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nope, I think it's ugly as all shit. mostly the front.

but I like the BMWs looks, I like the 999, (with the second fairing design) and I like the current CBR1k. so I guess my taste could be considered out of the ordinary.
The CBR has grown on me a little. It is to my eye the best-looking of the current Japanese literfours but that is a bit like saying you are the most modest porn star or have the most reliable Harley.

I also like the 999, the '05-06 does look beter than the original. A bit cleaner in front.

I agree the RSV4's worst part is the front but the rest of the bike makes up for it. Especially like the rear and swingarm. I don't think it will age all that well but then again most bikes don't.

Don't care for anything about the BMW really regardless of how fast it is. With that much hp I wonder what its top speed will be? 200?
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IF i were a japanese company, i wouldn't get into an HP fight with BMW..
I would aim for lower weight...and look into building a modern 2 strokes bike...
2 strokes motors being the only way to substantially drop the weight...

How about a very realistic 280 pounds / 120 HP bike ?...

I can see myself getting around the BMW on the 5th lap ...his rider being out of breath ,arms and legs pumping ...
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You do understand that 95% of the people that buy one of them will NEVER even use the 190hp the bike has! I do understand that "It's better to have the "NEED" then need the "NEED" and not have" but lets get real here! I get a kick out of everyone saying they need one of these things when no one will really even ride it to it's full potential! What a joke! I still say the 1098/1198 is by far the better looking bike with the RSV4R a close second....but thats my opion!
people like you are always the ones who are slow as shit

you are also the same sort of person spouting on about safety gear constantly, yet its usually you asshats that crash more than anyone else

also, then and than are different words, learn the difference retard
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:31 PM
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Lastly: Am I the only one who finds the RSV4 "not that attractive"?
Nope. I'm not a fan of the looks whatsoever. I'm assuming it looks better in the flesh.
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I do not like them either. They do look a bit better in the flesh but it is an unnecessarily busy design.

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...Totally shut out the japanese this year. Wow. No data yet as far as laptimes, averages, etc.
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people like you are always the ones who are slow as shit
Yeah, I guess his trophy case isn't anywhere as large as yours.
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people like you are always the ones who are slow as shit

you are also the same sort of person spouting on about safety gear constantly, yet its usually you asshats that crash more than anyone else

also, then and than are different words, learn the difference retard

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