Epic fail! Funny how everyone was defending them when they grenaded on the dyno and now this bombshell is dropped. This is gonna be the biggest shitstorm EVER!
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Originally Posted by mrgrn
why don'y you do yourself a favor and put me on ignore
did any body ever hear an official word on what it was? I seem to remember hearing some chatter of broken cranks. never saw any hard proof, but a crank would definitely justify full engine replacement.
"For sure we've understood that to make the Ducati turn, you need a bigger effort than what Valentino was used to, physically too, and we didn't expect that. This bike is a lot more physical, the way to make it turn with the required precision is certainly the thing we must focus on at the moment."
- J Burgess
All brands can have problems (see the Goldwing frame recall) and I personally believe Aprilia is doing a good thing by playing it safe and swapping the whole engine.
Piaggio (owners of the Aprilia brand) had a huge problem with the X9 scooter frame a few years ago. First they either denied everything or confronted the problem on a one to one basis but a mounting number of angry owners whose scooters started to weave all over the place all of a sudden forced them to issue a mass recall campaign. They learned it the hard way.
I was reading an article with an interview with one of the engineers, he said that the conrods had been machined incorrectly in the big end area, the conrods are supplied by an outside contractor, also the engineer said that it only affects prototype bikes, looks like it didn't.
This is from the interview,
"Each bike had the same problem. The conrod snapped due to wrong machining of the big end area during the manufacturing process by an out side supplier"
Aprilia's R&D director Romano Albesiano explained. "It is unbelievable, we are very upset. The [bottom-end] hole is very slightly to the side, off-centre, which has left one side of the rod weaker than the other, causing the fault. It only affected this batch of bikes......"
Ah shet, how is it any different then the rockers of the Duc's or the valve stems of the GSXR (01-02), or the Exup on the Yamaha's! They all have issues when first out. That's why I wait until the second year to buy anything new!
I was let down after the real world dyno runs started coming out, but only after Aprilia hyped the street motor to make big power in the press during pre production. This recall does not give a warm fuzzy but in my opinion kudos for adressing the problem. This is going to hurt the company's image & bottom line.
I'm still very keen on this machine & want to see Max whoop dat azz.
good thing i have held off on the bike their lack of HP and now replacing engines would have made me drive the bike back through the dealerships window and fouled my taste for good
Great bike still but this is not a good sign for Aprilia IMO. I am sure the leghumpers will be in here watering it down and making replacing engines sound acceptable and OK but for me that is 2 tums down
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I was let down after the real world dyno runs started coming out, but only after Aprilia hyped the street motor to make big power in the press during pre production. This recall does not give a warm fuzzy but in my opinion kudos for adressing the problem. This is going to hurt the company's image & bottom line.
I'm still very keen on this machine & want to see Max whoop dat azz.
B careful or you will get banned for your opinions G
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
if youre going to use an outside supplier for something as critical as connecting rods, wouldnt you QC them before installing?
the bike has been worldwide for over a year B4 coming here and they took forever to get it made prior to that The political stance seems to be look how great Aprilia is in taking this head on and they are better then other companies as they are looking for perfection LMAO not who the fuk wants to take their bike back already and have a motor replaced
the word collapse comes to mind not perfection. I really have been digging the bike and i have it right there on my list of possibles but stuff like this is not helping the brabd image as much as some say it is helping them. Hard to believe the flagship bike has engine recalls already after waiting a year to get them after the rest of the world has had them and now they are crap, you have to be kidding me right?
can you say largest mistake in Aprilia history i thinx besides the Cube
Hope all the owners get their stuff sorted and maybe some compensation other then a inconvience and aprilia learns from this for the future so i can buy one
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
I am impressed Aprilia would replace the entire engine rather than do some BS band-aid recall "check" and hope the bikes get out of warranty before grenading. Must be costing them a fortune. It is still hard to believe that the problem wasn't caught in QC, or that it couldn't be tracked to a small number of bikes.
Perhaps an alternative would have been to offer the owners to either a) replace the engine with stock parts or b) give them new improved Ti rods and some superbike-spec pistons that they would install at their own expense with no further claim if the stock engine fails. The guys that chose option b could have some nice upgrades. Probably cheaper for Aprilia too. There must be some legal reason this couldn't be done.
I too heard that the conrods are the problem , but reps claimed it was only on prototypes . Yeah right . Notice how the fault always lies with an ``outside supplier`` as if this mitigates Aprilia`s responsibility .
They certainly seem to be taking responsibility -- we'll see after customers report on the work -- but if the problem is conrods then they knew about it BEFORE the bike's official release . We need more details .
Seems like Aprilia is taking responsibility to me...
you make it sound like they had a choice
engine failures launching people off a bike would be hard to sweep under the rug and i can't remember a recall of this magnitude from anybody in the last 15 years.
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
Seein's how none of us know shit about it, I guess I just want to give them benefit of the doubt. Here's hoping our bike choices aren't watered down to Ducati and Japan Inc. in the future cause I don't wanna walk.
RSV4 engine recall/replacement
This is gonna be the biggest shitstorm EVER!
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