Seein's how none of us know shit about it, I guess I just want to give them benefit of the doubt. Here's hoping our bike choices aren't watered down to Ducati and Japan Inc. in the future cause I don't wanna walk.
don't know what? their flagship bike that took 1.5 years too late to market has had some internal engine parts made not to proper spec and their failure could lead to a safety issue and you are supposed to stop riding your bike ASAP. They will replace the engine and give you a jacket for your troubles and they apparently are nipping this b4 it gets bad
I will go on a limb here this is not going to get better soon it looks like it will get worse.
replacing a thousand engines is a bad sign on a second year bike
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"DETROIT—Toyota Motor Corp. recalled 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. to correct "sticking accelerator pedals," increasing the number of cars and trucks the Japanese auto maker has recalled for sudden acceleration issues by 600,000.
The latest recall comes after Toyota issued its biggest ever safety recall affecting 4.2 million vehicles late last year over sudden acceleration, which the company said was caused by improperly installed floor mats."
Holy shit Chicken Little! A thousand engines? People getting launched? The word collapse comes to mind? After waiting a year for the bike to get here?
Great job on drama and rocket launching the facts.
Yes it's bad and I wouldn't be happy as an owner, but the sky really is not falling.
toyota makes bikes?
engines failing at speed cause a safety issue, yes. chuck it is not a lightly taken issue as far as i am concerned
water it down as much as you can but it is a huge deal, notice how quiet it is in here
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Here's the letter my buddy got for one of the RSV's he purchased:
For Immediate Release
January 21, 2010
Aprilia USA Alerts Dealers and Owners to Pending Recall of RSV4
Aprilia Italy has announced its intent to recall a limited number of RSV4 motorcycles for engine replacement. While only a small number of production units are affected, the recall impacts all RSV4 motorcycles delivered within the U.S. market to-date.
Following extensive testing and verification, the Italian manufacturer assessed that one component in a small group of engines assembled during a specific time period had failed to meet stringent factory quality standards, resulting in an unacceptable risk of future engine failures. To-date, there have been no warranty claims related to this potential issue in the U.S. market. However, in line with the premium quality standards of Aprilia motorcycles and potential safety implications, the manufacturer and its dealerships are committed to immediate action to ensure complete Aprilia owner satisfaction.
To prepare for the recall in the U.S. market, Aprilia USA technical representatives are contacting each RSV4 owner to notify them of the replacement process and timeframe. To expedite the replacement, customers will be able to select from a list of Aprilia dealers who have completed RSV4 technical training. Free transportation of the RSV4 to the dealership will be provided.
Aprilia dealers were notified of the pending recall January 21, 2010. Replacement engines for all units affected are already in transit to the U.S. market and owners are in the process of being contacted. Aprilia USA is expecting to complete the engine replacement on consumer RSV4 motorcycles by the end of February 2010.
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I wonder what Ape is going to do with all of the recalled engines. If the engine has not failed and they know what the problem is, it would be no big deal to replace the defective conrods in the effected motors.....shame to crush them.
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They'll fix it and all will be forgotten within six months unlike the Ducati rocker debacle that went on for years.
I wonder though, how many dealers will put up with the bs, as Aprilia has the trait of screwing the dealers out of warranty money. Many stores dropped the marque because of this. The dealership around here, Duc and Ape, is now closed, but previously dropped Aprilia as they were owed $10K on claims.
Rumor has it that the two Chicago dealers are also going belly up.
It's a great bike but I still wonder about the long term survivability of the brand. After all, their bread and butter is made on the under 150cc units.
They'll fix it and all will be forgotten within six months unlike the Ducati rocker debacle that went on for years.
I wonder though, how many dealers will put up with the bs, as Aprilia has the trait of screwing the dealers out of warranty money. Many stores dropped the marque because of this. The dealership around here, Duc and Ape, is now closed, but previously dropped Aprilia as they were owed $10K on claims.
Rumor has it that the two Chicago dealers are also going belly up.
It's a great bike but I still wonder about the long term survivability of the brand. After all, their bread and butter is made on the under 150cc units.
kerlyb has said they did go belly up in chicago FWIW
they are now being asked to stay open on sunday and monday to help move the swaps along faster, who is going to pay for that?
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"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
I too would have problems with a dealer swapping out the engine on my new bike, just as I know quite a few guys here that work in bike dealerships, some are excellent and I'd have no problem with them working on the bike, others, definately no way! how do you know who you get?
I would still buy an RSV4 if I were in the market for such a bike, of course post recall build so the bloody engine doesn't have to come out, also I think Aprilia are really going to step up quality control now.
I also think people forget the old Suzuki GSXR750T debacle, where valves were touching pistons, you'd drop your brand new 750 off for it's first check over service and then when you get it back the engine had been swapped, I couldn't believe it when I got home started cleaning it, noticed bolts etc had been touched, started looking around....new engine, called the dealer, he said there was a recall, I went down the whole why didn't you tell me path, that recall didn't seem to affect the sales of that bike or subsequent gsxr750's
Also the mighty RC30 have problems with early builds stretching valves and making contact with the pistons, again, it didn't affect the sales of the bike.
I wouldn't want one pre recall build, but would definately own one post precall build.
I wouldn't want one pre recall build, but would definately own one post precall build.
I guess I don't follow this. If they replaced the engine with a new one, at that point what difference would it make? No other part on the bike is being replaced. Once the engine is replaced, it is virtually indistinguishable from any other bike of that model.
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I guess I don't follow this. If they replaced the engine with a new one, at that point what difference would it make? No other part on the bike is being replaced. Once the engine is replaced, it is virtually indistinguishable from any other bike of that model.
Re-read my post. A pre recall bike would have the engines swapped at a dealer, a post recall bike all assembled at the factory, my worry is guy swinging the spanners scratching panel work/leaving out fasteners(like they do!). There are some on here saying that their Aprilia dealer is not familiar with sports bikes, so I guess the mechanics are also not familiar with these bikes. Over the years I have worked and managed a number of workshops and know that not all mechanics are created equal
For example, a friend of mine works on Aston Martins, a customer had a problem with an engine when it was nearly new, the customer was pissed as the engine had to come out and he believed that it would not go back in correctly with all the right brackets/loom holders etc, he felt some may be left out. Anyway my friend did the job as he assured the customer he would not be able to tell the engine had been out. My friend said other guys in the shop couldn't of done it as they would of left out hard to get at items(brackets, loom holders etc)
Point taken about Aprilia dealers. Apart from a couple of very large ones here they are all scooter dealers who happen to sell Aprilia motorcycles once in a while. You can only imagine what goes on in their workshops...
Re-read my post. A pre recall bike would have the engines swapped at a dealer, a post recall bike all assembled at the factory, my worry is guy swinging the spanners scratching panel work/leaving out fasteners(like they do!). There are some on here saying that their Aprilia dealer is not familiar with sports bikes, so I guess the mechanics are also not familiar with these bikes. Over the years I have worked and managed a number of workshops and know that not all mechanics are created equal
For example, a friend of mine works on Aston Martins, a customer had a problem with an engine when it was nearly new, the customer was pissed as the engine had to come out and he believed that it would not go back in correctly with all the right brackets/loom holders etc, he felt some may be left out. Anyway my friend did the job as he assured the customer he would not be able to tell the engine had been out. My friend said other guys in the shop couldn't of done it as they would of left out hard to get at items(brackets, loom holders etc)
there was not a dealership in my state i would let do a oil change on my CBR nevermind my $20k bike
there might be like 6 really good ape machanics in the country and it is hard to believe somebody is not getting a 21 year old kid to swap out their motor i would want a new bike and they can resell the older one with the new engine to somebody else
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