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10-28-2009, 06:07 PM
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10-28-2009, 06:12 PM
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Is that a minibike ?! Similar to when I get on my NSR50R .
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10-28-2009, 06:15 PM
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hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
I LOVE IT!!!!!
EPIC FAIL!
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11-03-2009, 05:16 AM
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WTF that is not for me when I think of buying a top end Italian motorcycle from Aprilia I want a crappy Lions head on the side or really bad color schemes!!! Major disappointment with those bland base colors, I mean I want to look like a teenager!!!
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11-03-2009, 05:20 AM
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All the more reason to buy the factory spec model.
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11-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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The connecting rod failures were from 30 pre-production engines at the press launch. From what I have read they have very little mileage on them and five failed. Aprilia traced the problem to a manufacturing defect and it shouldn't impact actual production bikes.
I read on Aprilia forum that factory models are now in stock in a few dealers and they expect the R in just a few weeks.
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11-03-2009, 02:36 PM
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11-03-2009, 10:22 PM
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Feeding the Troll
"During initial design, engineers considered many possible engine configurations including a V-Twin, Inline-Triple and both a 90-degree and 65-degree V-Four. Despite being the most expensive to build, they settled upon the latter, as it provides the best compromise between the high rpm performance of a four-cylinder and slim size of a V-Twin, thereby contributing to ideal racetrack dynamics."
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11-04-2009, 01:32 AM
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I want one more and more every day I read the reviews 
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11-04-2009, 02:06 PM
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I'm not bagging on V4's here but I remember some article in which they stated they would have went with a V2 but they where too far down the line to change.
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11-04-2009, 02:09 PM
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I'm not bagging on V4's here but I remember some article in which they stated they would have went with a V2 but they where too far down the line to change.
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they were not going to make a 1200cc twin, don't think was ever on their drawing board, maybe hank will chime in
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11-04-2009, 07:11 PM
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I'm not bagging on V4's here but I remember some article in which they stated they would have went with a V2 but they where too far down the line to change.
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I believe Aprilia's engineers came to conclusion that V2s are dead and buried
as far as WSBK racing is concern... but V2s do make a nice street bike...
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11-04-2009, 07:13 PM
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V2s do make a nice street bike...
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there`s something I can agree with...
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11-05-2009, 02:04 AM
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They don't make a bad race bike either.
IIRC, it was 2 years ago that BLS said the V2 was dead.
Well, last year they again dominated the Constructor's Championship with their "dead" V2....
1st = Ducati = 570 points
2nd = Yamaha = 487 points
And the predictions continued....
and again this year, Ducati dominated the Constructor's Championship....
1st = Ducati = 572 points
2nd = Yamaha = 505 points.
AND the V2 is still restricted with intake venturi size and weight penalties and various other restrictions compared to the fours.
It's not over yet....and WHAT a street bike.
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11-05-2009, 07:21 AM
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AND the V2 is still restricted with intake venturi size and weight penalties and various other restrictions compared to the fours.
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True... intakes are variable from 46mm to 52mm or removable depending on
race result managed by FIM regulation... weight is variable from 162kg to
171kg depending on race result managed by FIM regulation...
Ducati is the last hold for the old V2 work horse and they are going to be the
last manufacture to switch to 4 cylinders in WSBK... is that really smart racing strategy???
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11-05-2009, 01:50 PM
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Ducati is the last hold for the old V2 work horse and they are going to be the
last manufacture to switch to 4 cylinders in WSBK... is that really smart racing strategy???
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From a marketing perspective it is as they essentially own that corner (or niche) of the market. All romanticism aside, it`s about selling bikes, pure and simple and having the playing field all to yourself is a definite advantage in that regard. While some may want the latest and greatest 4 cylinder supersport, V-twin enthusiasts will always be around and Ducati now has a monoply on this segment leaving all the other players (Big 4, BMW, Aprilia) to battle it out for the hearts and wallets of the remaining segment. Seems pretty pragmatic and smart to me.
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True... intakes are variable from 46mm to 52mm or removable depending on
race result managed by FIM regulation... weight is variable from 162kg to
171kg depending on race result managed by FIM regulation...
Ducati is the last hold for the old V2 work horse and they are going to be the
last manufacture to switch to 4 cylinders in WSBK... is that really smart racing strategy???
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they can't. their whole brand DEPENDS on a engine config now and a switch from that will kill the brand, i would expect a larger engine coming in twin form first and i have money on it
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From a marketing perspective it is as they essentially own that corner (or niche) of the market. All romanticism aside, it`s about selling bikes, pure and simple and having the playing field all to yourself is a definite advantage in that regard. While some may want the latest and greatest 4 cylinder supersport, V-twin enthusiasts will always be around and Ducati now has a monoply on this segment leaving all the other players (Big 4, BMW, Aprilia) to battle it out for the hearts and wallets of the remaining segment. Seems pretty pragmatic and smart to me.
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OR, their only move  they pigeoned holes themselves into that "smart move"
if the WSBK falls so does their line as people aree only going to want a twin for so long if it does have have that i bought what i saw on TV appeal
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11-05-2009, 02:02 PM
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the whole "race it on Sunday, buy it on Monday" premise is entirely debatable. Lamborghini (and many others) sell cars and do not race.... While the visibility lost from not participating in WSB would likely come at a cost, there is, and will always be, market for a sporty V-twins (so long, of course, as the product remains decent). They have opted to be the big fish in a smaller pool as opposed to a small fish in a larger pool. Given their relatively finite resources (compared to the larger players), it is probably a wise move on their part.
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