The Rossi to Ducati thing starts gaining steam

drsus · #1 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 09:48 PM

Well, it starts. First rossi talks about being ok with goin to ducati, now the whole things starts to gain a tad of steam..... Should make for awesome silly season all next year.

Valentino Rossi and Ducati Rumors - A Separate Team for Rossi?

Latebraker · #2 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 09:58 PM

He's also mad they are bringing in Spies to ride the M1.

Rossi is really turning into a drama queen.

Did Lawson act this way when he had Rainey for a teammate?

BC999S · #3 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Latebraker

Did Lawson act this way when he had Rainey for a teammate?

I think that was for only one season and Eddie was the "new guy" on the Marlboro team. But I see your point.

Jami6989 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Latebraker

Rossi is really turning into a drama queen.

He's always been one.

Teufelhund · #5 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 10:35 PM

He could just purchase the company and run it the way he wants. Be lot easier.

Old Fart · #6 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 10:43 PM

He could buy MV for pennies on the Euro.

Busy Little Shop · #7 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 10:51 PM

I think Rossi will do it because racers have a clandestine love affair with the
bike that beats them too a championship...

Old Baldy · #8 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:01 PM

I'd love for it to happen!

My favorite rider on my favorite bike. Makes sense for Rossi and Ducati too....Italian rider on Italian bike. He would get the Duc to be rideable by anyone other than Stoner as well...at least as much as it could get with that long motor and (relatively) short s/arm.

Imagine a Jorge vs. Rossi vs. Stoner battle! Would Stoner stay on as #2?

bababoy · #9 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:21 PM

a drama queen maybe but he backs it up on the track. so i say he can bitch all he wants.

XFBO · #10 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:25 PM

Well, it cant be on a Marlboro sponsored bike.......or has he had a change of heart now?

Busy Little Shop · #11 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Baldy

I'd love for it to happen!

He would get the Duc to be rideable by anyone other than Stoner as well...at least as much as it could get with that long motor and (relatively) short s/arm.

Mercy Baldy... Rossi's M1 has the shortest s/arm in the paddock...

Quote Rossi:
"Always in acceleration, we have some problem to open the throttle,"
Rossi said. "I had some problems to manage the bike, because sometimes
the power comes in quite aggressively. We have tried to help in that
area. In the slow hairpins, we suffered, but we have tried to
concentrate on making the engine accelerate better out of the slow
corners. Usually we struggle in the slow hairpins in acceleration. We
struggled also when we have less grip on the track, so we try to
improve the acceleration, but also the driveability. We have found
some good things and we also have some ideas for the future."

Quote Matt Oxley:
Arguably the biggest change for Rossi's bike, though, is a much
shorter wheelbase to help utilize the performance of Bridgestone's
tires. Rossi's bike is now 40mm shorter than the MI he raced to fifth
place on his Bridgestone debut back in March in Qatar. And he said
drastic reduction was essential to help keep Yamaha ahead of Ducati
and Honda.

Quote Rossi:
"The new bike is different in the chassis," Rossi explained. "The
weight distribution is different and the feeling is not so bad. We
have a little bit more stability with the front and rear. We
discovered during the year that Bridgestone needs a completely
different setting compared to Michelin. We knew this quite early in
the season, but we realized we needed to move the weight of the bike.
"So we had to shorten the bike to use the tire in a different way,"
said Rossi, who conceded the much shorter wheelbase did mean
sacrifices in other areas.

"For sure, a shorter bike is a more difficult bike," he admitted. "You
have more wheelies and it becomes more unstable, particularly in the
faster corners, so you need a rider that is able to manage this. I
have to change my style to adapt to the bike, because it is quite
different compared to last year, but if you can use the potential of
the Bridgestone tires then it is possible to go very fast. That is why
we need to have made such big changes for the chassis next year."

BLS's super calibrated tape measure unlocks some of the RC212V
and the Yamaha M1...

Whoa!!! 645mm swingarm length for the Honda V4... mercy that is a lot
longer than the 570mm of the Yamaha's M1 swingarm... advantage V4...

570mm swingarm length for the 09 M1...

Old Baldy · #12 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:49 PM

You old dog Larry....you measured the Honda from the crank line.

PS what was the wheelbase of both?

sburns2421 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:51 PM

Ducati buys MV
Rossi signs with Ducati
There is a Ducati Corse team of Stoner and ? on Ducati
There is Rossi on a Red/Silver MV that looks suspiciously like a desmosedici underneath
Everyone wins

Old Baldy · #14 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sburns2421

Ducati buys MV
Rossi signs with Ducati
There is a Ducati Corse team of Stoner and ? on Ducati
There is Rossi on a Red/Silver MV that looks suspiciously like a desmosedici underneath
Everyone wins

haha - I like your thinking!

Jami6989 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by XFBO

.......or has he had a change of heart now?

Or do you mean "Rossi sells out again"? After all, he has whined for ages how he hates alcohol and tobacco but oddly has taken money from them time and time again.

Furious Styles · #16 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jami6989

Or do you mean "Rossi sells out again"? After all, he has whined for ages how he hates alcohol and tobacco but oddly has taken money from them time and time again.

So cut off your nose to spite your face?
In the end noone remembers who sponsored it unless you win.

You know, cause you never waffle on anything. Being the high calibre guy you are.

Ducaholic · #17 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 12:47 AM

I can understand Rossi being interested in Ducati. He IS Italian after all. Also, as far as the cigarette money, maybe he is growing up and becoming more of a realist. That said, I'd love to see Rossi on a Duc!

BC999S · #18 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by XFBO

Well, it cant be on a Marlboro sponsored bike.......or has he had a change of heart now?

He ran a Camel sponsored bike for a season or two, I believe. I guess money trumps convictions (sometimes).

And I thought the Ducati was sponsored by a bar code company?

Whippersnapper · #19 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 12:57 AM

I think it is almost a sure thing that Rossi will be on a Ducati in 2011. The most recent Rossi rumors give it some more steam but the real reason I believe is his desire to surpass Giacomo Agostini as the greatest of all time. My full argument is expounded here

Furious Styles · #20 (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 01:18 AM

Why is this an issue if he's alread signed a contract 2010 with Yamaha? Just something to act all school girlish about?

Quote:

“I haven’t decided yet about my future, I will decide in the next year. I have a contract signed already with Yamaha (for 2010). For sure it is a great dream for everybody, to see Valentino with Ducati. We will see, I don’t know.”

This is like the LeBron thing... who gives a damn it was almost 2 years away when they started running their mouth about it.