The Rossi to Ducati thing starts gaining steam

[wdavis009]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

Back on track....so Rossi cannot and does not want to switch to Ducati. I don;t 100% believe this. He would LOVE to ride an Italian bike to win the Rider's Championship and for the challenge as he did when he left Honda with the then-best-bike on the circuit.

IMO.

Actually, that's not quite what he said. He said it isn't possible to move, and he doesn't want to move (i.e., break his contract), to Ducati in 2010. He didn't imply anything regarding 2011.

[Old Baldy]

Originally Posted by wdavis009

Actually, that's not quite what he said. He said it isn't possible to move, and he doesn't want to move (i.e., break his contract), to Ducati in 2010. He didn't imply anything regarding 2011.

hmmmmm.....I interpret what he meant differently, assuming this quote is correct...

"Honestly, I do not understand why," said Rossi, ahead of this weekend's Australian GP. "It is 100 percent impossible because I have a contract with Yamaha. Therefore, it is not possible to go to Ducati next year, but also because I do not want to!"

I read this as saying he CANNOT go to Ducati next year, and he also does not WISH or DESIRE to go.

[sburns2421]

If I was Lorenzo, early next year I would attempt to be the first to sign with Yamaha for 2011. If he does I think Rossi will leave, leaving Lorenzo as #1. If Rossi signs first IMO he will try to make it difficult for Yamaha to resign Lorenzo, probably by pushing for Spies to be his teammate at Fiat.

Years from now I think it will come out that Lorenzo was the first teammate that actually threatened Rossi and got inside his head. Rossi's complaining about developing and setting up the bike Jorge enjoys sounds a bit bitchy and insecure, not GOAT-like at all.

[Busy Little Shop]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

err.....ok, ........we'll just ignore the current season and last season's race results, should we?

We can ignore anything you want but Rossi ain't ignoring today's top speeds
recorded at Philip Island qualifying...

Stoner's Ducati V4 322 km/h 200 mph

Rossi's Yamaha I4 316 km/h 196 mph

Elias's Honda V4 324 km/h 201 mph

[Old Baldy]

Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop

We can ignore anything you want but Rossi ain't ignoring today's top speeds
recorded at Philip Island qualifying...

Stoner's Ducati V4 322 km/h 200 mph

Rossi's Yamaha I4 316 km/h 196 mph

Elias's Honda V4 324 km/h 201 mph

How many championship points for the top speed, exactly?

[Busy Little Shop]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

How many championship points for the top speed, exactly?

No points but Rossi ain't happy as Yamaha pulls power... however you know
that Ducati will give him all the power he can handle... why even Melandri's
non support Kawasaki I4 posted a higher top speed today... 318 km/h 197 mph

[cheekybloke]

Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop

No points but Rossi ain't happy as Yamaha pulls power... however you know
that Ducati will give him all the power he can handle... why even Melandri's
non support Kawasaki I4 posted a higher top speed today... 318 km/h 197 mph

Do you also have figures for gearing and all the other different setings used.

[wdavis009]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

hmmmmm.....I interpret what he meant differently, assuming this quote is correct...

"Honestly, I do not understand why," said Rossi, ahead of this weekend's Australian GP. "It is 100 percent impossible because I have a contract with Yamaha. Therefore, it is not possible to go to Ducati next year, but also because I do not want to!"

I read this as saying he CANNOT go to Ducati next year, and he also does not WISH or DESIRE to go.

I read it as he can't go next year and doesn't want to go next year, as that was the specific rumor he was responding to. He has already stated Ducati is an option for 2011 a couple times, so I don't think he would suddenly say he doesn't want to go to Ducati at all.

[drsus]

That anyone expected Rossi to show up to the press conference and say ANYTHING to fuel Ducati rumors is funny as hell to me.

I dont think anyone was talking or thinking he would be going to Ducati in 2010, we all know he still has a year at Yamaha, why brake the contract and go the hard way and legal battles and all the ugliness with a company he likes.

The Ducati talks have been all about what might happen when hes contract expires at Yamaha in 2010 for 2011. Now, the fact that Yamaha offered him a position at Yamaha when he stops racing is huge and shows that Yamaha knows that not only Ducati would love to snatch him away at any cost, but every in the MotoGP paddock would love to do it.

Rossi still didnt deny the chance of a Ducati move in 2011, but then again no one ever confirms or denies anything like that anyway.

[Old Baldy]

Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop

No points but Rossi ain't happy as Yamaha pulls power... however you know
that Ducati will give him all the power he can handle... why even Melandri's
non support Kawasaki I4 posted a higher top speed today... 318 km/h 197 mph

So on this basis, you assume that Rossi would prefer to ride the Kawasaki than his "slow" Yamaha M1 in the race today, or ever? Amazing deduction, dude.

[Old Baldy]

Originally Posted by wdavis009

I read it as he can't go next year and doesn't want to go next year, as that was the specific rumor he was responding to. .

So we're in perfect agreement.

[Busy Little Shop]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

So on this basis, you assume that Rossi would prefer to ride the Kawasaki than his "slow" Yamaha M1 in the race today, or ever? Amazing deduction, dude.

So you're surprised that a non support Kawasaki could out speed the heavily
supported M1??? me too!!!

I think we can deduce that if there is one bike Rossi would prefer to ride its
Ducati not Kawasaki...

[wdavis009]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

So we're in perfect agreement.

Ahhh, guess I misread your comment. I thought you meant he has ruled out Ducati completely versus just for 2010. Sorry about that.

[Old Baldy]

Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop

So you're surprised that a non support Kawasaki could out speed the heavily
supported M1??? me too!!!

I think we can deduce that if there is one bike Rossi would prefer to ride its
Ducati not Kawasaki...

Huh?

I'm afraid I don't see any deduction on your part at all, Larry. Sorry, you lost me a long time ago. I can only argue against logic. Not pedantic desire/feeling/wishing/emotion. I'm done here.

Carry on regardless, as usual.

[Jami6989]

Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop

I think we can deduce that if there is one bike Rossi would prefer to ride its
Ducati not Kawasaki...

If Rossi took 3 weeks off at the start of the engine allotment rule to "rest", he would have a surplus of fresh engines to use like Stoner. Then he could shove his Motor of Death straight up your ass.

[Busy Little Shop]

Originally Posted by Old Baldy

Huh?

I'm afraid I don't see any deduction on your part at all, Larry. Sorry, you lost me a long time ago. I can only argue against logic. Not pedantic desire/feeling/wishing/emotion. I'm done here.

Carry on regardless, as usual.

Thanks Baldy... I wish to carry on but it ain't easy in Speedzilla... have you
noticed how debates are spring loaded to the personality of the poster
regardless of their ideas???

Current deduction on my part is that since Yamaha "soften" power and
Ducati is still at full power... isn't possible that Rossi would like the full
power of the Ducati given that Kawasaki's level of support is on
shaky ground in MotoGp???


Quote Rossi:

"In 2010, riders will be restricted to just six engines for the entire
IS-race season, something Rossi has doubts about. "Is all for save
money," said Rossi. "We know the reason, but for sure six engines for
IS races is a lot. But it's the manufacturers who decided this rule,
so I hope they are able to understand the limit of these engines. For
sure it will be more tricky work. We hope in the future the economical
situation in the world is coming better and is possible to use more
engines."

Quote Tech 3 Manager

Asked if their engines were detuned, Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Team Manager Herve Poncharal said he did not know what Yamaha
engineers did but both Colin Edwards and James Toseland said their
new, sealed engines felt "soft" and weaker on acceleration than before
Brno. Dani Pedrosa and Nicky Hayden, however, said their engines felt
the same. Hayden then pointed out that he was using his Brno engine at
Indy. One rider who wasn't hurting in engine performance was Alex de
Angelis, who recorded the highest top speed of the weekend, 201.26 mph
(323.9 kph)"