Revenge of the Two Strokes! - Page 2

20_RC51_00 · #21 (**permalink**) 08-25-2009, 07:52 PM

Honda is garbage, they are what the british manuf's were in the early years making machines that people didn't really want but were told they should have, and we all know what happened to them, Ironically it was Honda in those early years that puched the brit manufs to their death and now honda has gone full circle. RIP Honda.... I hope.... unless you change your stupid ways

mikstr · #22 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 01:10 AM

But what about the Fury??????????????????

roadkill · #23 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mikstr

But what about the Fury??????????????????

This is just the preliminary round. Wait until he gets fully worked up in a few days.....it'll be caps lock city.

mikstr · #24 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 03:38 AM

Now, now, be nice

tonto · #25 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nomo

Poor Bimota doesn't want to hear this . Their Due 500 was intended to be a world beater but destroyed the company instead . Does my NSR50R count , with its terrifyingly peaky 8.5 HP ?!

My 10yr old will kick your a$$ on his nsr50R! lol
Now his RS is a whole different can-o-worms!!!!!

DesperateSP2 · #26 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 06:16 AM

Went to pick my forks yesterday (both oil seals more than just leaking) and had a chat with the chaps running the workshop about Enduro and MX since they are really into them.
Apparently FIM is ready to let two strokes back into competition: they want to bring back the 80cc class (two stroke) and allow youngsters to race with 125cc two strokes against the present crop of 250cc four strokes. All European manufacturers, led by KTM and Husqvarna (owned by BMW) back this move.
Guess who opposes the move on "environmental" grounds?

sburns2421 · #27 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 06:34 AM

If I were to buy a used dirt bike, it would be a two-stroke for many reasons. But the primary one is that servicing one is a fraction of what a four-stroke costs. Rebuild a CR500 for $400 including a new cylinder that can be bored out several times and it is running like new. Rebuilding a CRF450 would easily be a four-figure bill.

Imagine if they do get emission cleaned up enough what a literbike two-stroke would be like. An inline 1000cc two-stroke would probably make upwards of 200 hp and weigh 40 pounds less than a comparable four-stroke.

DesperateSP2 · #28 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 07:09 AM

I've heard from suaully reliable sources that KTM has a FI two stroke engine ready to launch, a single cylinder in the 125-300cc range.
They are just waiting to see if the US and Europe will come up with new emission regulation for motorcycles to see if it will be worth mass producing it.
Expect Honda to give them Hell and then lose at its own game, as usual.

nomo · #29 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tonto

My 10yr old will kick your a$$ on his nsr50R! lol
Now his RS is a whole different can-o-worms!!!!!

No doubt . I outweigh my NSR50 by 12 pounds . That RS is sweet ; good luck to him .

tonto · #30 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nomo

No doubt . I outweigh my NSR50 by 12 pounds . That RS is sweet ; good luck to him .

that's awesome- his NSR outweighs him by about double! Same goes for the RS. Other than a gal on a sportbike, the is nothing sweeter than a kid tearing it up

nomo · #31 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tonto

that's awesome- his NSR outweighs him by about double! Same goes for the RS. Other than a gal on a sportbike, the is nothing sweeter than a kid tearing it up

Your son weighs 82 pounds ?!! Ahh , you're Danny Pedrosa's father !

Ben710 · #32 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 05:52 PM

Thsi thread makes me wanna buy an RS250.

Mashuri · #33 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 06:07 PM

Makes me miss my TZ. Having been corrupted by the two-smoke fun-factor, I say bring 'em on!!

nycstripes · #34 (**permalink**) 09-15-2009, 08:26 AM

I sometimes miss my TZ250. I don't miss the expense though. $15 per gallon of C12 plus $20 per liter of Castrol A747 makes for an expensive track day.

RCJAY · #35 (**permalink**) 09-15-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gog

Oh boyz oh boys!!!! Two stroke power is like nothing I have ever experienced, I can never get enough. My only complaint has been the smoke... this is very exciting news.

I too can't get enough of 2smokers, I don't mind the smoke, but I really hated the jetting part of 2 strokes. You might have a perfect running bike one day and 2 weeks later it fall on its faces and you have to f#$king rejet again. And the peaky power band, I sure would like a wider power band to work with but 4 strokes just don't have a hit like the 2T do.

GAMBLER · #36 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nycstripes

I sometimes miss my TZ250. I don't miss the expense though. $15 per gallon of C12 plus $20 per liter of Castrol A747 makes for an expensive track day.

sweet.

drthompson65 · #37 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 03:33 PM

20_RC51_00 · #38 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 02:59 AM

Orbital Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why 2-Stroke Direct Injection is a Big Deal

there are a bunch of interesting articles about 2 strokes out there, pretty exciting. fingers crossed.

mikstr · #39 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 03:14 AM

While the Orbital system works and is still used in numerous applications, it is unnecessarily complex (requiring an air pump for example). The E-TEC system developed by Evinrude (an evolution of sorts of the FICHT system) is light years ahead. In addition to being used across the Evinrude outboard motor line, it is now also used in some high-performance Ski-Doo snowmobiles (with engines built by Rotax whose parent company Bombardier Recreational Products also owns Evinrude and Ski-Doo).