Look at how many engines Ducati went thru in a season compared to Honda, they were swapping them left right and centre. Thats part of the reason they went to 1200cc their engines just weren't reliable
It may surprise you to learn that making a twin competitive with equal displacement four-cylinder bike tends to have that effect. In other words, it has more to do with physics than build quality.
How many world championships did Honda's super reliable bike win again? FLOP all that money and all that "technology" superseded by a V twin.
the same Honda that has been beaten regurally by the tiny Ducati factory and Yamaha in Motogp.
Hmmmm how many endurance races did Ducati win?????????
The RC45 sure won just about EVERYTHING during it's production run
Not that I should mention racing other than WSB cos you yanks can only think about one thing at a time! hmmm yank ryhmes with.....
The RC45 sure won just about EVERYTHING during it's production run
Have anything raced long enough, and by a sufficient number of people, and it will inevitably win one of each..... To recap, I don`t beleive anyone is saying the RC45 is crap (I am not anyhow). However, it wasn`t the "game changer" Honda clearly hoped it would be....
It was a tumultuous era. Marusho, Tohastu, Cabton, Spark, Monarch, Ito,
Olympus, Hosk, Meguro. All these companies that made major engineering
innovations had their day and died. But their engine advances were
incorporated into the designs of the surviving companies, in many cases
their engineers went from one company to another, hopping from
bankruptcy till at last they found a securely managed outfit. The vast
knowledge of motorcycle engines they brought with them was invaluable in
ensuring that the Big Four in their turn did not also fail.
There I have it, Japanese engine development did not spring from limbo
onto the world arena, but that they emerged from domestic isolation to
export to the world only when their home market was saturated, and that
they had 5 decades to learn how to make good motorcycle engines.
The rising and failing of manufacturers, who's engineers move on to the next still open manufacturer with their innovative ideas, isn't exactly a new thing in motorcycles. We went through it in American in the teens and 20's, the English did it in the 30's and into the 60's. And for their eras they WERE just as innovative and special as the Japanese models were in their era.
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Hmmmm how many endurance races did Ducati win?????????
The RC45 sure won just about EVERYTHING during it's production run
Not that I should mention racing other than WSB cos you yanks can only think about one thing at a time! hmmm yank ryhmes with.....
Endurance racingPlease get real.
So name everything it's won I'd be interested to know when it won GPs.
OH I'm no American but I did explain that to you previously perhaps if your eyeshight wasn't so poor you'd have seen the writing on the wall for your ageing relic.
I understand about the different cultures... I am after all Italian and qualify for
dual citizenship... but my point is this... if Ducati don't give shit about bigger
budgets manufacturing capabilities and motorcycle domination then why
should we alter the rules in their favor just because they complain about not
having as big as budget as the competition???
I didn't say the rules should be altered. However, if that's what it takes to put more manufacturers on the grid in WSBK, then I'm all for it. I KNOW you wouldn't want to see 4 Japanese manufacturers racing I-4's against each other, and neither do I.
I didn't say the rules should be altered. However, if that's what it takes to put more manufacturers on the grid in WSBK, then I'm all for it. I KNOW you wouldn't want to see 4 Japanese manufacturers racing I-4's against each other, and neither do I.
True... you didn't mention altering the rules but the discussion you joined in
was about altering the rules in favor of the respective country...
What I want to see is like the rules in MotoGp... all engine displacements are
set equal... because 1000cc Twins have won the title against 1000 Fours...
What I want to see is like the rules in MotoGp... all engine displacements are
set equal... because 1000cc Twins have won the title against 1000 Fours...
Surley Larry to make things truly fair all V4s should have a capacity restriction to 750 just to make the racing fair on the stinky IL4s and V2s.
True... you didn't mention altering the rules but the discussion you joined in
was about altering the rules in favor of the respective country...
What I want to see is like the rules in MotoGp... all engine displacements are
set equal... because 1000cc Twins have won the title against 1000 Fours...
but it was too close and cost the twins too much money to run the maxed out lump so they needed a larger lump to compete cheaper as production, racing, and performance are not their main goals
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