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Old 07-21-2009, 02:11 AM
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Talk talk talk... show me a bike you have owned with more titles...
I don't buy bikes based on titles, I buy them based on how they fulfill my needs and how they function (call it an anti-Harley concept if you will). I am secure enough that I ride for my own pleasure, not to impress others. So, my VTR1000 doesn't have any titles to its pedigree, but it's a damn fine streetbike (even better with mods it now has) which does everything I need it to do. And that is all that matters. If you're riding or choosing your mount to impress others, you're in it for the wrong reasons (besides, you'll wow way more of the mindless masses with anything saying H-D on the tank...).
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Talk talk talk... show me a bike you have owned with more titles...
I dont know what bikes he's owned but since you bring it up as if no ones surpassed the RC45......hasnt the Ducati 916 alone (nevermind the 996/998/999 and beyond) won a whole hell of lot more titles than the RC45 Larry?
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I offered proof that the RC45 was really ahead
of it's time
Let's see then, the ZX-7R won just as many WSB titles as the RC although it benefited from a mere fraction of the support, development and riding talent. Now then, you would have to concur that THAT is a bike that was ahead of its time.
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I dont know what bikes he's owned but since you bring it up as if no ones surpassed the RC45......hasnt the Ducati 916 alone (nevermind the 996/998/999 and beyond) won a whole hell of lot more titles than the RC45 Larry?
Definitely.......If one is considering a single race win a "title" the 916's 5 year run would absolutely blow the RC45 away. I don't know the break down for individual race wins, but the 916 won the WSBK championship in '94, '95, '96 and '98.....So if you're counting single race wins as titles, I would imagine the lowly V2 916 kicked the crap out of the RC45 as "titles" are concerned. It looked a hell of a lot better crossing that finish line as well
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^^^^++100. And the only way Honda could take it to Bologna was to beat them at their own game (hence the creation of RC51).
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Let's see then, the ZX-7R won just as many WSB titles as the RC although it benefited from a mere fraction of the support, development and riding talent. Now then, you would have to concur that THAT is a bike that was ahead of its time.
Ok I concur... the ZX7R and the RC45 were true homologated racers and
they were ahead of there time... check out Marv's ZX7R I did all the
custom machine work...

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I don't buy bikes based on titles, I buy them based on how they fulfill my needs and how they function (call it an anti-Harley concept if you will). I am secure enough that I ride for my own pleasure, not to impress others. So, my VTR1000 doesn't have any titles to its pedigree, but it's a damn fine streetbike (even better with mods it now has) which does everything I need it to do. And that is all that matters. If you're riding or choosing your mount to impress others, you're in it for the wrong reasons (besides, you'll wow way more of the mindless masses with anything saying H-D on the tank...).
I didn't buy Mr.RC45 based on titles... I bought it because it fulfills my
needs... I ride it for my own pleasure and not to impress others... its a
damn nice street / race / touring bike... it just so happens to have 21 titles
to its pedigree... so it deserves respect...
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Didnt I meet that cat at Laguna with you Larry?
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I dont know what bikes he's owned but since you bring it up as if no ones surpassed the RC45......hasnt the Ducati 916 alone (nevermind the 996/998/999 and beyond) won a whole hell of lot more titles than the RC45 Larry?
Talk talk talk... just show me an article where a kitted Ducati made the new
Aprilia V4 feel slow like the kitted RC45 did and then we got something to
discuss...

For that matter show me an article where a stock 916 out performed a stock
RC45 in a shoot out???
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Didnt I meet that cat at Laguna with you Larry?
You sure did meet Marv my neighbor... just think 2 rare homologated race
bikes on the same street... now all we need now is for a R7 and a RC30 owner
to move in...
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^^^^++100. And the only way Honda could take it to Bologna was to beat them at their own game (hence the creation of RC51).
it was called the rules favored the 1000'cc's and the was the end of the 750 era

Honda won 3 titles on 3 different motors and ducati did it with the same one only enlarging it for more then a decade
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fact is its still a decade old Larry, time marches on-- get over it, in another decade it prolly wont even be on par with out of the box middle weight bikes.....
It's on par with out of the box middle weights now?
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The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
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I dont know what bikes he's owned but since you bring it up as if no ones surpassed the RC45......hasnt the Ducati 916 alone (nevermind the 996/998/999 and beyond) won a whole hell of lot more titles than the RC45 Larry?
GSXR1000 has done it too...
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I didn't buy Mr.RC45 based on titles... I bought it because it fulfills my
needs... I ride it for my own pleasure and not to impress others... its a
damn nice street / race / touring bike... it just so happens to have a mix of 21 titles and race wins to its pedigree... so it deserves respect...
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needs... I ride it for my own pleasure and not to impress others... its a
damn nice street / race / touring bike... it just so happens to have 21 titles
to its pedigree... so it deserves respect...
so
exactly how many titles did your actually bike win?? the one you own not ones like it

and BTW they are motorcycles not people, they are incapable of "deserving respect"
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i love how now your banterous defense is the new V4 with 250 cc's more motor, surely you jest?
you miss my point, any factory race bike from 10 years ago should be about on par with todays off the rack bike (some a little better some a little worse) this isnt anything special and in fact is by design. its called trickle down. I certainly would hope all manf. are putting the technology of their best race bikes 10 years ago into the bikes anyone can buy off the shelf.

to put out some claim about how fantasic that makes the 10yo full fact. race is kinda absurd. JMHO

now what would make it awesome is if a full factory race bike from 10years ago was better than the full factory race bike of today, but that isnt going to happen unless a manf. does something horribly wrong.
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I don't buy bikes based on titles, I buy them based on how they fulfill my needs and how they function (call it an anti-Harley concept if you will). I am secure enough that I ride for my own pleasure, not to impress others. So, my VTR1000 doesn't have any titles to its pedigree, but it's a damn fine streetbike (even better with mods it now has) which does everything I need it to do. And that is all that matters. If you're riding or choosing your mount to impress others, you're in it for the wrong reasons (besides, you'll wow way more of the mindless masses with anything saying H-D on the tank...).
In BSLs defence I think he genuninley ownes his bike for the right reason and loves it for tghe wrong reason although Larry loves all motorcyles and I can respect him for that even though his constant preching gets on my t*ts. Unlike I suspect Aus rc45 who just seems content to boast about it's spec and value compared to "run of the mill inline 4 Japanese bikes." Typical loud mouth Aussie really I guess.
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Talk talk talk... just show me an article where a kitted Ducati made the new
Aprilia V4 feel slow like the kitted RC45 did and then we got something to
discuss...

For that matter show me an article where a stock 916 out performed a stock
RC45 in a shoot out???
I'm sure if you were to give the right builder $80,000 he could build a 916 that would absolutely decimate the Aprilia RSV4. As for your other question, can you show me an article where the RC45 outperformed a 916 SPS in a shootout??? If yes, please post the ENTIRE article
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exactly how many titles did your actually bike win?? the one you own not ones like it

and BTW they are motorcycles not people, they are incapable of "deserving respect"
+1 Even if it did deserve respect.......I wish Larry would practice what he preached and show respect to the I4 of the ZX7R AND GSXR and the V2 of the Ducati.......as each of the has amassed more "titles" that the RC45. The V2 of the Ducati 916 had 4 times as many WSBK CHAMPIONSHIPS, so I definitely think some respect for that machine is in order
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