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Old 03-23-2009, 01:22 AM
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What a mess, but I can't say that it is a big shock. I was expecting this whole thing to be FUBAR from the beginning
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As stated before, and I think it is obvious, Edmunson is doing this deliberately.
For whatever reason. He had his vision back when and now has the means and ability to impose it. His being ousted from the AMA years ago was full of back stabbing, intrigue, and money. Lots of money. There is the element of revenge here at some level if only to "run the show" which he felt was taken from him.
Shame really. Don't know what will be left when he's done. Sh*t, don't see much being left after this season. AMA used to have Superbike, FX, Superstock, and Supersport with full grids, factory support and big name real fast guys filling all the classes. Now Supersport has 7 essentially unknown riders in it and there is an incomprehensible incoherent class structure.
What a farce.
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And it gets worse, apparently Hacker was given his papers and banned by DMG/AMA for conduct issues at the Press Conference.

From Roadracing World

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AMA Pro Road Racing rider Jamie Hacking has been suspended indefinitely following this weekend's event at Auto Club Speedway for conduct detrimental to the sport of professional motorcycle racing. The culminating incident occurred in the Auto Club Speedway media center following post-race interviews on Sunday where Hacking used a string of profane language while exiting the press interview area. Prior to this incident, Hacking displayed additional acts of inappropriate behavior in both public and media interviews.

"No premier sporting organization would tolerate, whether it be motorsports or major league stick and ball sports, the level of disrespectful, profane and vulgar language in a public forum as demonstrated by Jamie Hacking this weekend at Auto Club Speedway," said AMA Pro Road Racing Managing Event Director Colin Fraser. "His behavior was totally disrespectful to the media, his competitors and the sport of motorcycle racing in general."

Hacking will be considered for reinstatement pending payment of a $4,000 fine and delivery of a public apology to AMA Pro Road Racing officials. Subsequent to payment of the fine and receipt of an apology acceptable to AMA Pro Road Racing, Hacking will also be suspended for one full event weekend.

All fines paid to AMA Pro Road Racing will be donated to Camp Boggy Creek, a Paul Newman Hole in the Wall Camp located in Eustis, Florida, and the Roadracing World Action Fund.

Additionally, AMA Pro Road Racing also placed riders Michael Beck, Kevin Boisvert, Mat Mladin, Mark Simon and Dustin O'Hara on probation due to failure to participate in Sunday's mandatory autograph session.

AMA Pro Racing is the premier professional motorcycle racing organization in North America, operating a full schedule of events and championships for a variety of motorcycle disciplines. From its Daytona Beach headquarters, the organization operates and manages AMA Pro Road Racing, which includes AMA Pro American Superbike, AMA Pro Daytona SportBike, AMA Pro SuperSport and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing also manages and works closely with the day-to-day operational organizations of the AMA Pro Flat Track Championship and the AMA Pro Supermoto Championship Series in addition to other two-wheel and ATV series. Learn more about AMA Pro Racing at www.amaproracing.com.





F em. Bring on WSBK at least the racing is good.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:34 AM
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Again, who is gonna show up in 2010? I hope Mladin retires after this year and AMA turns into another non-televised club race.

Who here thinks AMA is a bigger draw then WSBK? I have a friend who feels AMA is THE BEST racing ever, besides MOTOGP and people like Hodgeson race AMA because it is the best.

I personally think AMA is dogshit, the guys who race it feel that way and people like Hodgeson, who I greatly admire, enjoy racing so much, they'll do anything to get a job... which is exactly what he and many others continue to do.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:08 AM
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There's no way I'd go as a spectator to Road Atlanta or Road America or Barber if there wasn't a TV feed.
This is a head scratcher. You want to attend an event to watch it on tv?

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But how much fun is it if you can only see two or three corners all weekend?
Watch from one point and get on your bike and go to the next.

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Once again, you were there. I've never seen a race on tv that I attended. Why would you want to, you were there.
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And it gets worse, apparently Hacker was given his papers and banned by DMG/AMA for conduct issues at the Press Conference.

From Roadracing World

AMA Pro Issues Penalties

AMA Pro Road Racing rider Jamie Hacking has been suspended indefinitely following this weekend's event at Auto Club Speedway for conduct detrimental to the sport of professional motorcycle racing. The culminating incident occurred in the Auto Club Speedway media center following post-race interviews on Sunday where Hacking used a string of profane language while exiting the press interview area. Prior to this incident, Hacking displayed additional acts of inappropriate behavior in both public and media interviews.

"No premier sporting organization would tolerate, whether it be motorsports or major league stick and ball sports, the level of disrespectful, profane and vulgar language in a public forum as demonstrated by Jamie Hacking this weekend at Auto Club Speedway," said AMA Pro Road Racing Managing Event Director Colin Fraser. "His behavior was totally disrespectful to the media, his competitors and the sport of motorcycle racing in general."

Hacking will be considered for reinstatement pending payment of a $4,000 fine and delivery of a public apology to AMA Pro Road Racing officials. Subsequent to payment of the fine and receipt of an apology acceptable to AMA Pro Road Racing, Hacking will also be suspended for one full event weekend.

All fines paid to AMA Pro Road Racing will be donated to Camp Boggy Creek, a Paul Newman Hole in the Wall Camp located in Eustis, Florida, and the Roadracing World Action Fund.

Additionally, AMA Pro Road Racing also placed riders Michael Beck, Kevin Boisvert, Mat Mladin, Mark Simon and Dustin O'Hara on probation due to failure to participate in Sunday's mandatory autograph session.

AMA Pro Racing is the premier professional motorcycle racing organization in North America, operating a full schedule of events and championships for a variety of motorcycle disciplines. From its Daytona Beach headquarters, the organization operates and manages AMA Pro Road Racing, which includes AMA Pro American Superbike, AMA Pro Daytona SportBike, AMA Pro SuperSport and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing also manages and works closely with the day-to-day operational organizations of the AMA Pro Flat Track Championship and the AMA Pro Supermoto Championship Series in addition to other two-wheel and ATV series. Learn more about AMA Pro Racing at AMA Pro Racing - Home.





F em. Bring on WSBK at least the racing is good.
That is total BS to suspend one of the biggest racing names indefinitely. It would be funny if Mladin clinches the Superbike title a couple of weekends early, then launches into a tirade about how bad the DMG is on the podium, Youtube, Wind Tunnel, etc.

Doing this would of course be just to dare the DMG to ban him from racing the series, and then double-dog dare them to strip away his points for the year and award the championship to another rider like Hayden or The Worm. Doing so would remove all credibility from the series and possibly finish off Roger E from running the series. Right now he has pull with the France family, but if the series loses massive amounts of money and status, they will dump him in a minute, contracts be damned. If they know how to do one thing, it is make money from racing and won't tolerate a loser.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:31 PM
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Ok I'm lost... what happen?
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:54 PM
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DMG is should hire Puig to straighten things out.

Why should Hacking be banned from racing when all he said was it is BS that the Buell is twice the size of his 600 and he has no chance even when he outrides the rider on the Buell. It's one thing to even up the performance i.e. Ducati 848 against the 600's. It is quite another to allow the twins twice the displacement like the Buell 1125R. He has a valid point. 200 to 250 cc is all a twin should get to even things up. More than that swings the scale too far the other way. He also nearly beetch slapped Jason DiSwallow for being the micro wanna be Pedrosa that he is.
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Ya, they're gonna make Hacking sit out until he apologizes in a way they deem acceptable.

On the other hand, I used to work in a sweatshop that was run by idiots that could rival DMG but I was glad to have work. For all the cash these riders are making, maybe they could have that attitude.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:55 PM
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best news i have read in a week, thankfully i wont have to watch that crap again this yr.
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best news i have read in a week, thankfully i wont have to watch that crap again this yr.
Amen bro! All the AMA races did was give me the entire paddock to myself while they wobbled around out there. Why don't they do everyone a favor and cancel the entire series? Seriously, no one would know and even less would care.
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Ya, they're gonna make Hacking sit out until he apologizes in a way they deem acceptable.

On the other hand, I used to work in a sweatshop that was run by idiots that could rival DMG but I was glad to have work. For all the cash these riders are making, maybe they could have that attitude.
most of the riders are making a lot less this year (in the US) than last year....a lot of guys have lost rides and sponsors and many teams are mere ghosts of their former selves. I think there is a general malaise with the riders so that on top of all the lame rules changes and trying to turn this into NASCYCLE has made ofr some grumpy people. The coverage is for shit btw....I tried to watch some coverage from Daytona over the weekend and Freddy Spencer about put me to sleep....and the moron on the camera missed the fight for 2-3 at the line.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:18 AM
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Like I said Roger is the anti christ.
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most of the riders are making a lot less this year (in the US) than last year....
It'll be funny when they start to complain about money when half the country is out of work and starving. Poor, poor racers!
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It'll be funny when they start to complain about money when half the country is out of work and starving. Poor, poor racers!
duh....think about what you just said....what do you think a lot of these guys do for a living? They race motorcycles!!! A lot of them aren't even covering costs so technically they ARE out of work and I bet more than a few are eating a lot of mac-n-cheese.
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YeP !....the gravy train has passed....

and i'm afraid it's not coming back soon .......
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duh....think about what you just said....what do you think a lot of these guys do for a living? They race motorcycles!!! A lot of them aren't even covering costs so technically they ARE out of work and I bet more than a few are eating a lot of mac-n-cheese.
Boo fukn hoo! I wish some of the more dickhead riders would feel the heat first so they could eat a nice helping of humblepie.
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