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Old 01-19-2009, 01:35 PM
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Seems the factory guy/gal that put my gear shifter onto the rearset was a bit hurried and cross threaded the pivot shaft bolt onto the aluminum reaset. I have been experiencing weird shifting between 1st and 2nd gear and some of the down shifts close to stopping were hanging up. Upon closer inspection I noticed the shift shaft was not in very far and had quite a bit of side to side movement so I decided to remove it clean it all up grease it properly and re-install it. 1st thing I noticed was it did not come out very easy mushy feeling you know the feeling of the dreaded cross threaded feeling. sure enough it came out with the threads attached to the bolt. Shit!! so I have to call the dealer today and tell him to order me a rearset. Damn what is the world coming to today. This seems to be happening all to often on everything I buy from a hairdryer to a motorcycle to a truck. Is all this stuff being made in China now. I think it is the assembly line worker simply does not have enough time to do his job or to make sure his job is correctly done. Good thing you have a warranty this friggin part cost $100 bucks and is nothing but pot metal. They are even spec'ing 29 ft. lbs on that stainless bolt into butter soft aluminum, no way will that work. I will go maybe 16~18 ft. lbs with blue loctite when I get my new part.
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Seems the factory guy/gal that put my gear shifter onto the rearset was a bit hurried and cross threaded the pivot shaft bolt onto the aluminum reaset. I have been experiencing weird shifting between 1st and 2nd gear and some of the down shifts close to stopping were hanging up. Upon closer inspection I noticed the shift shaft was not in very far and had quite a bit of side to side movement so I decided to remove it clean it all up grease it properly and re-install it. 1st thing I noticed was it did not come out very easy mushy feeling you know the feeling of the dreaded cross threaded feeling. sure enough it came out with the threads attached to the bolt. Shit!! so I have to call the dealer today and tell him to order me a rearset. Damn what is the world coming to today. This seems to be happening all to often on everything I buy from a hairdryer to a motorcycle to a truck. Is all this stuff being made in China now. I think it is the assembly line worker simply does not have enough time to do his job or to make sure his job is correctly done. Good thing you have a warranty this friggin part cost $100 bucks and is nothing but pot metal. They are even spec'ing 29 ft. lbs on that stainless bolt into butter soft aluminum, no way will that work. I will go maybe 16~18 ft. lbs with blue loctite when I get my new part.

I think I would have put a helicoil in. Would be a better method than replacing with a new one.
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I think I would have put a helicoil in. Would be a better method than replacing with a new one.
That has crossed my mind and I may explore doing just that.
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So you aren't the only one noticing these little one off issues? A lot of the smaller parts are done on the mainland and then assemble in Japan and those small parts are having the problems. What happen to the good old days where you ride/beat/ride/change oil?
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I'm going to have to start calling this forum Doom and Gloom, what with snapping frames, unreliable $70 superbikes, snapping cams (RC51) and stripping threads the fault of cheap metal .
I must be one of the lucky ones but then I haven't yet crashed my bike to snap the frame, removed the quieting gears to snap the cams, been cack handed with a spanner yet, or bought an overpriced pile of marketing junk. If I do any of those I'll be sure to take full responsibility for my own actions.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:30 PM
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I'm going to have to start calling this forum Doom and Gloom, what with snapping frames, unreliable $70 superbikes, snapping cams (RC51) and stripping threads the fault of cheap metal .
I must be one of the lucky ones but then I haven't yet crashed my bike to snap the frame, removed the quieting gears to snap the cams, been cack handed with a spanner yet, or bought an overpriced pile of marketing junk. If I do any of those I'll be sure to take full responsibility for my own actions.
So I am guilty of trying to make my bike shift properly. I found out why it was not functioning properly and no fault of my own. Eventually this could have lead to a bent shifter fork or worse.
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TBH I'm probably being unfair on you and for that I appologise. (I'm not in the best of moods ATM some idiot in the pay office managed to shortchange me by £500 this week). Although all the other points I've made I stand by.
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TBH I'm probably being unfair on you and for that I appologise. (I'm not in the best of moods ATM some idiot in the pay office managed to shortchange me by £500 this week). Although all the other points I've made I stand by.
I can relate not the best of days here either.
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I wouldn't touch the bike. Suzuki messed it up, they should be replacing the part and paying for the job in full. If the fix is not satisfactory I would start pestering the local Suzuki importer with calls and letters.
No point in using your time and money to do what a large manufacturer is supposed to do.
I was made that way.
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I wouldn't touch the bike. Suzuki messed it up, they should be replacing the part and paying for the job in full. If the fix is not satisfactory I would start pestering the local Suzuki importer with calls and letters.
No point in using your time and money to do what a large manufacturer is supposed to do.
I was made that way.
Dealer where I bought it is not open on mondays but I will be going there tomorrow (tuesday) ASAP. After they look at the damage and decide what to do I will patch it up some way with a re-tap or somthing similar to keep me riding till the replacement part arrives which used to only take a few days now seems to take weeks, must be the economy.
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I hate to harp on your misfortune but I am on my third Yamaha and I have had ZERO malfunctions/failures/improperly installed parts!! I just change the oil and tires!
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Seems the factory guy/gal that put my gear shifter onto the rearset was a bit hurried and cross threaded the pivot shaft bolt onto the aluminum reaset.... This seems to be happening all too often on everything I buy from a hairdryer to....
You have rearsets on your hair dryer? I'm jealous!

Hey, shite happens. More often now than before.
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I hate to harp on your misfortune but I am on my third Yamaha and I have had ZERO malfunctions/failures/improperly installed parts!! I just change the oil and tires!
yea I also have a '06 GSX-R1000 that has been flawless nothing required but gas and oil and of course tires. Then one day Suzuki tells me the frame needs inspecting I am throwing the BS flag out on this one, ain't nothing wrong with the bike. I also have a '07 RM-Z450 that was suppose to implode at the 12 hour mark according to everyone in the know, 106 hours later it's still running strong. I finally did do a top end two weeks ago and to my suprise everything including the piston looked like new.

Win some you lose some especially if you buy as many motorcycles as I do. I guess I got a little spoiled on the 1000 to a point.
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I think I would have put a helicoil in. Would be a better method than replacing with a new one.
Helicoils are junk. Good enough to get you home, but not a permanent repair by any means. If you want to repair the threads the right way, use a time-sert. Just read and understand the directions 1st, if you know how to use them they work fantastic.
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C'mon CB, be honest! Ur NEVER in a good mood!
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I see that Suzuki spare parts are as readily available as ever. Back when I had my two-stroke everything, and I mean everything, took from one month upwards to arrive.
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Helicoils are junk. Good enough to get you home, but not a permanent repair by any means. If you want to repair the threads the right way, use a time-sert. Just read and understand the directions 1st, if you know how to use them they work fantastic.
The rearset assembly was ordered yesterday (parts are in Atl. warehouse in stock) and a time sert was installed into the damaged one to get me by until the new parts come in. The dealer handled everything. The time sert seems stronger than the OEM to begin with might just keep it. it took 29 ft. lbs with easy.
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