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01-07-2009, 08:19 PM
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Schumacher VS Rossi now....
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01-08-2009, 01:52 AM
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Rossi would beat MS in anything but an F1 car or a cart.
Doesn't exactly say Michael wants to go racing MotoGP against Rossi, kind of a misleading title.
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01-08-2009, 08:58 AM
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in a car and bike shoot out.... Schumy is dead meat.
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01-08-2009, 10:37 AM
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Can't see MS losing in any car. Remember 7 F1 titles, the man's no slouch behind the wheel no matter how many rallies or F1 tests Rossi does. It would be a nice publicity stunt, nothing more. Seems like the FIA is trying to maintain interest in their sports with the present economy causing no end of major manufacturers walking away and two of the biggest names in the respective sports retired and one on the cusp.
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01-08-2009, 06:35 PM
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he wont loose in a car, but Vale will be MUCH closer to him than Schumy to Vale on the bike.
I do think Vale will smoke him in a Rally type car race... and theres no type of bike that Schumy can come close to Vale on.
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01-08-2009, 06:39 PM
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Why don't they do a shoot out for charity!! Do a pay per view, I would buy it!
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01-08-2009, 08:56 PM
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he wont loose in a car, but Vale will be MUCH closer to him than Schumy to Vale on the bike.
I do think Vale will smoke him in a Rally type car race... and theres no type of bike that Schumy can come close to Vale on.
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When did close ever win a race? Close only counts in horseshoes and it doesn't amount to anything in terms of a win. I doubt MS is a slouch in a rally car as he has participated in rally races as well never mind the fact that driving a 800 hp F1 car to 7 world titles might give him an advantage over Rossi's occasional forays into the world of four wheels. You really think Rossi's rally experience is even close to MS car racing experience.
This isn't some local track guru taking on the worlds best. This is the winningest F1 driver in the world whose records, like Rossi's in Moto GP, are likely never to be touched taking on the other dominant racer in the world. Had Rossi beaten someone on par with Sebastien Loeb when he'd entered rallies (actually not a bad idea since Subaru and Suzuki left rally, but Rossi would lose to Loeb) I'd say he was the likely victor overall but that isn't the case.
In the end, Rossi wins on the bikes and MS in the cars with their respective sports governing bodies winning on the balance sheets. This would keep people arguing/discussing "how close" and "how difficult" one type of racing was over the other. In the end this is a racing organizers dream given that Moto GP and F1 may be suffering financially with recent major manufacturer departure; I'm sure both series will be pushing for this as they are likely pushing the Bayliss-Rossi battle, but in the end it will be just for show. The Bayliss-Rossi challenge would have more merit.
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The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
I even had plans to take a rolling chassis and shoe horn in my 500 V4 Interceptor but it was off by 10mm... the frame was too narrow and the engine too wide...
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When did close ever win a race? Close only counts in horseshoes and it doesn't amount to anything in terms of a win. I doubt MS is a slouch in a rally car as he has participated in rally races as well never mind the fact that driving a 800 hp F1 car to 7 world titles might give him an advantage over Rossi's occasional forays into the world of four wheels. You really think Rossi's rally experience is even close to MS car racing experience.
This isn't some local track guru taking on the worlds best. This is the winningest F1 driver in the world whose records, like Rossi's in Moto GP, are likely never to be touched taking on the other dominant racer in the world. Had Rossi beaten someone on par with Sebastien Loeb when he'd entered rallies (actually not a bad idea since Subaru and Suzuki left rally, but Rossi would lose to Loeb) I'd say he was the likely victor overall but that isn't the case.
In the end, Rossi wins on the bikes and MS in the cars with their respective sports governing bodies winning on the balance sheets. This would keep people arguing/discussing "how close" and "how difficult" one type of racing was over the other. In the end this is a racing organizers dream given that Moto GP and F1 may be suffering financially with recent major manufacturer departure; I'm sure both series will be pushing for this as they are likely pushing the Bayliss-Rossi battle, but in the end it will be just for show. The Bayliss-Rossi challenge would have more merit.
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ok....
obviously Vale would win the competition because the type of race the schumy is talking about would be an average of both races, RoC style racing...if you read the articles. Hence my mention of a rally car....
Thats when close , besides horshoes and grenades....also wins.
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01-09-2009, 06:11 AM
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rWell, if they do time trials in the cars then Vale might be waaaaaay close to Schmumi than one might think. Without MS being able to push another car off the track for position he doesn't have that much of an advantage.
His advantage comes from being able to toss someone elses multi million dollar car around tracks without any worries. If he wads one up they simply roll another out the trailer and give him a pat on the back. I actually got tired of F1 after loosing count of how many folks MS ran off the tracks. He may have titles but he certainly isn't the greatest F1 driver ever. He is the mirror image of Dale Ernhardt.
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01-09-2009, 10:36 AM
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Schumacher would beat Rossi if they both drove Formula 1 cars, and Rossi would destroy Schumacher if they both rode Moto GP bikes. On combined times it would not be a contest.
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01-09-2009, 04:18 PM
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Let's not forget age and weight. Generaly speaking, young guys always go faster than older guys. I think Vale is quite a bit lighter than the Schu too, at this stage in their lives. Also, everyone drives four wheelers. Vale is going to have more experience on four wheels than Schu will on two. In the end, comparisons across generations never are fair. Throw in different machines and it becomes a bit of a joke. Still, Michael wins cars and Vale wins bikes. But they are both motoring geniuses and could probably do equally well on either machine if they started young.
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01-09-2009, 04:36 PM
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Schuey would absolutely smoke him in anything on four wheels period! Rossi would smoke him on anything on two wheels. Schuey was talking about the Race of Champions Event however!
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