Mladin turning on the whine factor...

Superhawk69 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 10:02 PM

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Aug/080830h7.htm
Now Matt thinks it's personal... give me a break. His whole team knows they have issues here as stated on RoadRacing world today with regards to bad cranks and now he wants to act like an idiot on the track and such... What's with, "... you can't take my family away..."

Oh well, something to read about since the racing still stinks...

Old Baldy · #2 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 10:29 PM

I read the article twice.

You consider that whining? Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word?

RCJAY · #3 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Baldy

I read the article twice.

You consider that whining? Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word?

+1 1/2

Superhawk69 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 10:56 PM

I guess we all will view this different. I've always supported Matt, but when you and a teammate appear to be running non-legal parts, I don't see DMB coming after him unless they are planting the cranks in there...

I just don't see what his family has to do with it. If you're wrong own up and move on; just my quick take, but definitely open to your view...

wdavis009 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superhawk69

I just don't see what his family has to do with it. If you're wrong own up and move on; just my quick take, but definitely open to your view...

I suspect he meant Edmondson can take away his win (and hence his hopes for another championship), but he can't take away anything truly important to Matt (family, fans, heart). While a bit on the dramatic side, I am not sure what you find so strange about his references.

fatbabycycle · #6 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 11:14 PM

i dont call it whining either but i def call it blowing things waaaaaay out of proportion .

"you cant take away my frdddddddrrreeeeeeedom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

sounded like a total selfindulged spoiled brat.take your bike and leave ,cherry picking is boring to watch .

fatbabycycle · #7 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wdavis009

While a bit on the dramatic side, .

understatement of the year .

On an AMA bike hes the man ,......in the AMA

kam1996 · #8 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Baldy

I read the article twice.

You consider that whining? Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word?

+1 1/2

Latebraker · #9 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 01:15 AM

Here is an explanation on why Mladin and Hayden were DQed.
Cycle News Online

roadkill · #10 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 02:49 AM

Jeez Louise......."they can't take my family away"......give me a freakin' break.

Yeah, Mat, it's real personal when your crank has hand engraved codes when actual, you know.....real, factory cranks have laser engraved codes.....

In NASCAR, if your team pulled that crap, every freakin' mechanic would be banned from the track even as a spectator from now until the cows come home.......Yosh Suzuki pulls that crap and no one gets so much as a tongue stuck out at them....and their rider acts like DMG is out after him personally....Mat, take your family to the airport and the whole lot of you take a nice plane ride back to Oz......see ya! Sheesh, I hate whiners worse than anything and this guy is in Wikipedia when you type in "whiner".

Spoonman · #11 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 03:45 AM

Man up Mladin, if you're so good go to SBk and win a championship and quit cherry picking here in the States!

sqd8r · #12 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoonman

Man up Mladin, if you're so good go to SBk and win a championship and quit cherry picking here in the States!

It's always so easy to question a man's manhood from the comfort of your couch.

Mladin's been on the world stage, got the t-shirt and is in the twilight of his career. Every take a look at the salary levels in WSC vs. AMA SBK. If he's cherry picking how come he's possibly going to lose a third title to B. Spies and if cherry picking how come a former world superbike winner on the factory Honda can't touch him? Do oyu hold the same opinion for Duhamel? They have similar records on the world stage and I'd love to hear anyone question Duhamel's manhood.

sqd8r · #13 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Superhawk69

I guess we all will view this different. I've always supported Matt, but when you and a teammate appear to be running non-legal parts, I don't see DMB coming after him unless they are planting the cranks in there...

I just don't see what his family has to do with it. If you're wrong own up and move on; just my quick take, but definitely open to your view...

Best to read the quote again...

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then said, "All I've said is that Roger Edmondson can take away my wins, he can take away whatever he likes. He'll never be able to take away my family, my fans or my heart. He can do whatever he pleases but he'll never stop Mat Mladin being who he is."

No whining, just clarification of the situation. Mladin's/ Team Suzuki's (the "family" Mladin is referring to if you consider the make up of the team being close friends from Australia) reputation will not be impacted by this decision. Mladin as usual is behind his team 100% and won't waver. Given spurious claims made against Mladin/Team Suzuki in the past corporate image is at risk and the AMA hasn't exactly been the bastion of fairness or impartiality it proposes to be in the past esp. when we consider the season to date and the number of disqualifications. Even the FAQ on the disqualification led to more questions than answers.

RockyMt · #14 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoonman

Man up Mladin, if you're so good go to SBk and win a championship and quit cherry picking here in the States!

I'm sure YOU know what I'm about to say, but for everyone else;
Mladin gets paid more than ANY WSB rider currently competing, as well as more than all but the top 4 or 5 in MOTO GP. So knowing he can stay (and win) AND pad his bank account for retirement in a few years, OR go to WSB or Moto GP, and ride to maybe top 10 finishes on inferior bikes for a fraction of his current salary......HMMMMMMMM, what would YOU do? Also (and I'm not a big Mladin fan) if you ever really watch him ride, he works harder EVERY lap out there even when he's 10 seconds in the lead than anyone else, day in day out.

On the other hand, maybe this is a little "kharma" for all the traction control bullshit that Yosh so loudly denied a few seasons back, oh well.....if ya don't get caught it 'aint really cheatin' eh Mat?

-Rocky-

PS. personally I think Benny's mommie swapped cranks (or blew Houseworth(less) to do it for her!

fatbabycycle · #15 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 07:32 PM

until he challenges himself with a higher level of competition and stops picking cherries lapping into the top 9 in AMA superbike after 70,million laps on the same tracks over the years ,i will never be a fan .I dont question his ability ,hes def a very good AMA superbike rider on a SUZUKI .

Superhawk69 · #16 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 09:11 PM

I was told I should "read it again" and I did and I saw it on TV. Man enough to back up and say he was NOT whining, just tired of the whole mess most likely. He is one guy who out works everyone else except his teammate (I consider them pretty even) and it shows if you ever go to a race early before they start and watch him do laps versus the others. He is intense, so you have to understand where his comments come from.

That said, if you have cranks that don't have laser codes on them like all stock bikes... then we have an issue that has to be resolved and will unfortunately cost Matt alot when he probably didn't even know and just adds fuel to the DMG / Suzuki fire.

That said... what a S.Stock race... now that is good stuff.

Enjoyed the conversation... Happy Labor Day!!!

RockyMt · #17 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 09:28 PM

Oh yeah, he' fron Oz, so it's "winging" not "whining".......

-Rocky-

wdavis009 · #18 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superhawk69

That said, if you have cranks that don't have laser codes on them like all stock bikes... then we have an issue that has to be resolved and will unfortunately cost Matt alot when he probably didn't even know and just adds fuel to the DMG / Suzuki fire.

Not necessarily. If Suzuki pulled a bunch of cranks off the assembly line (before the bearing codes are etched, which is probably the last step in the production process) early in the year so they could pick the best of the lot for their race programs (something I believe every factory team does), there would be no violation of the rules. The fact Suzuki had the same cranks in the bikes this weekend tells me they, at least, believe they will win on appeal.

Baasinator · #19 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoonman

Man up Mladin, if you're so good go to SBk and win a championship and quit cherry picking here in the States!

Yawn. Dead horse.

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Originally Posted by fatbabycycle

until he challenges himself with a higher level of competition and stops picking cherries lapping into the top 9 in AMA superbike after 70,million laps on the same tracks over the years ,i will never be a fan .I dont question his ability ,hes def a very good AMA superbike rider on a SUZUKI .

Yawn. Dead horse.

At what point do you attack Spies for "cherry picking"? It's three championships in a row now, and all indications are that he'll be back in the USA next year!

The only difference between Mladin/Spies and the Haydens, the Hackings, the Duhamels, the Hayes, the Zemkes, the Hodgsons, etc. is that Mladin and Spies have been more successful. There's a million reasons why most of these guys would rather race in the US, and Spies might be a perfect example. Yet time after time, you only call Mladin out!

I say you lot are inconsistent with this particular argument.

fatbabycycle · #20 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baasinator

Yawn. Dead Horse. Etc.

At what point do you attack Spies for "cherry picking"? It's three championships in a row now, and all indications are that he'll be back in the USA next year! I say you lot are inconsistent with this particular argument.

the big difference is spies at least entertains bigger options ,mladin basically has said hes staying for the money and the wins and thats all he needs.Might make you smart but it doesnt make you the best racer.