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08-15-2008, 05:03 AM
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08-15-2008, 05:26 AM
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I like tester Ko comment on the big bore V2 versus the V4...
"But, by no means can the D16RR perform as well as the 1098R in the
canyons – you just won't experience its intended performance."
Mercy Ko I think you need a testosterone patch... the D16RR is aggressive
and you should feel more aggressive riding the canyons on one... no V2
should be able to hang with you...

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08-15-2008, 06:12 AM
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"should" does not always translate to "could"...
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08-15-2008, 06:38 AM
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Threads like this do not help. #891 arrives next week. Been a long wait.
Been a long time since owning a V-4... a V45 Sabre back in '83.
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08-15-2008, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop
I like tester Ko comment on the big bore V2 versus the V4...
"But, by no means can the D16RR perform as well as the 1098R in the
canyons – you just won't experience its intended performance."
Mercy Ko I think you need a testosterone patch... the D16RR is aggressive
and you should feel more aggressive riding the canyons on one... no V2
should be able to hang with you...
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The statement is very accurate. It's impossible for riders, even club level riders, to explore the abilities of a 200 hp D16RR, esp. on the road. There's a reason 600 class sportbikes rule the roost on the track and on the road.
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08-15-2008, 02:08 PM
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Threads like this do not help. #891 arrives next week. Been a long wait.
Been a long time since owning a V-4... a V45 Sabre back in '83.
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Can I come to your house and lick clean your tires once you receive this beast? 
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08-15-2008, 03:27 PM
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Screw you.
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Threads like this do not help. #891 arrives next week. Been a long wait.
Been a long time since owning a V-4... a V45 Sabre back in '83.
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08-15-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop
Mercy Ko I think you need a testosterone patch... the D16RR is aggressive
and you should feel more aggressive riding the canyons on one... no V2
should be able to hang with you
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Actually Larry save that patch for your mouth. Kaming is a friend of mine who despite being in his late 50's just had another child. No testosterone required... 
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08-15-2008, 03:52 PM
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[quote=Busy Little Shop;498499]"But, by no means can the D16RR perform as well as the 1098R in the
canyons – you just won't experience its intended performance."
This is one of those things that I'd like to form my own opinion on. I'd have a HUGE smile on my face while I failed to experience the D16RR's true performance... 
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08-15-2008, 05:47 PM
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Quote:
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The statement is very accurate. It's impossible for riders, even club level riders, to explore the abilities of a 200 hp D16RR, esp. on the road. There's a reason 600 class sportbikes rule the roost on the track and on the road.
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The ability of sportbikes, including middleweights, has long exceeded the capabilities of the mortals astride them. What increasingly matters to some is not how fast one goes from A to B, but the experience in doing so.
As Cycle World noted recently, 99% of sportbikes never, ever, see a track. Guess I'm in the minority as are others here, who do circle a track, but given the potency of all bikes nowadays I'm more interested in the experience versus a bike that "rules the roost". Egads, a local friend on a BMW R1200S beat hordes of Ducati 1098's, 999's, and Aprilia Milles in the regional MRA Supertwins GTO series.
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08-15-2008, 05:50 PM
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Can I come to your house and lick clean your tires once you receive this beast? 
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If you can give me a heads up when you'll be passing through the Rockies, I'll see what I can do about meeting your request! 
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08-15-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop
"But, by no means can the D16RR perform as well as the 1098R in the
canyons – you just won't experience its intended performance."
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This is one of those things that I'd like to form my own opinion on. I'd have a HUGE smile on my face while I failed to experience the D16RR's true performance... 
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Well, with the 1098R seeing track duty, I'll do a comparo. Believe they will be very different.
Glamorous action shot...

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08-15-2008, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sqd8r
The statement is very accurate. It's impossible for riders, even club level riders, to explore the abilities of a 200 hp D16RR, esp. on the road. There's a reason 600 class sportbikes rule the roost on the track and on the road.
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It's a statement all right but one without any accurate canyon time to back it
up... the *intention* of the Ducati's V4 is too make it so easy for you to
explore the abilities of a true Grand Prix machine and if that ain't enough for
you to lead the pack of non MotoGp bikes... then I say fine... give the key to
someone who will... stick to your street bikes and a safe and sane pace...
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08-15-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by twowheelcossack
Actually Larry save that patch for your mouth. Kaming is a friend of mine who despite being in his late 50's just had another child. No testosterone required... 
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Congratulations to Kaming and his wife for bringing another rider into
the world... I think he made a nice political correct statement on the
subject of V2 versus V4... but technically speaking only one bike can
win a canyon race... so let's sort out that winner fair and square and
not burden our mouths with a bunch of silly PC statements... mercy
don't we see enough of that in everyday life???
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08-15-2008, 06:51 PM
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blah blah blah... but technically speaking only one bike can win a canyon race... blah blah blah
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You need a serious head check dude. Canyon race? Are you kidding? Is that like the Saturday Morning World Championships? If I'm out there for a fun ride and you pass me, does that mean you won or that you out qualified me? Do you get pole position on your canyon races? A podium?
You need to get off your ridiculous soapbox.
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08-15-2008, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop
It's a statement all right but one without any accurate canyon time to back it
up... the *intention* of the Ducati's V4 is too make it so easy for you to
explore the abilities of a true Grand Prix machine and if that ain't enough for
you to lead the pack of non MotoGp bikes... then I say fine... give the key to
someone who will... stick to your street bikes and a safe and sane pace...
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I agree the "intention" is to explore the abilities of the closest GP replica on the planet. The key words there are explore and abilities. 99.9% of the riding public is lacking the ability to explore the full potential of a modern 600 let alone a 200 hp D16RR and none have the ability to explore them fully on the street.
Take off the V4 blinders for a minute and see the statement for what it is.
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"But, by no means can the D16RR perform as well as the 1098R in the canyons – you just won't experience its intended performance."... I think he made a nice political correct statement on the subject of V2 versus V4... but technically speaking only one bike can win a canyon race... so let's sort out that winner fair and square and not burden our mouths with a bunch of silly PC statements...
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Nothing PC about it. I take this statement as a sober look at the reality of todays riders. 99.9% of the riding public will have a greater chance of exploring the abilities of the 1098R over the D16RR, on track or on the street because it isn't putting down 200 hp and because it does have TC which aids lesser riders like you and I.
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08-15-2008, 08:04 PM
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Have to agree about all this "Canyon Racing" stuff!!...Larry, I hope you are kidding....
Canyon=Public roads
Public roads=One lane with oncoming traffic.
One lane=very little width for getting around a curve
Little room=No "racing" line
No line= Reduced speed (if you value your life)
Reduced speed=No need for large HP torque
Small HP=Smaller motorcycle
But, maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I've only got over 38 yrs. street experience, many years track time....AND...have been smoked by many better riders on smaller bikes!! And, no, I'm not SLOWWWWWW 
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08-15-2008, 10:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hubert
You need a serious head check dude. Canyon race? Are you kidding? Is that like the Saturday Morning World Championships? If I'm out there for a fun ride and you pass me, does that mean you won or that you out qualified me? Do you get pole position on your canyon races? A podium?
You need to get off your ridiculous soapbox.
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Nope I'm not kidding... fast movers don't follow slow movers out west... but if
you're out for a fun ride then I promise to make a fun pass... however if you
wish to challenge me to a race... then OK race is on...
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08-15-2008, 10:58 PM
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I agree the "intention" is to explore the abilities of the closest GP replica on the planet. The key words there are explore and abilities. 99.9% of the ri | | |