Rossi sez, Stoner sez, JB sez

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by XFBO

If you actually graduated HS my suggestion is to look up Jacobyn Meyers cuz your comprehension is horrendous, sue your old school. Reading IS your friend tough guy. Ive been a fan of Stoner's abilities since the 250 yrs sorry to prove you wrong.....again.

And why shouldnt Stoner be praised if you look at his START IN THE GP's its not much different than the very same God errr Imean guy everyone's been defending here since I can remember. Who by the way I believe is the GOAT.
The truly pathetic thing is how ppl keep comparing the two right now, today achievements when there is a 6 yr disparity between them that's what cracks me up.

they can be compared from race to race not 6 years to 6 years franky.

wait until casey has to face adversity and then report back

[XFBO]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

wait until casey has to face adversity and then report back

Marky, he's been 'facing' the GOAT for the past 2.5 yrs and one other GP champion......how much more adversity is required?

Who did the GOAT face while in the big leagues, any champions? (and dont bother with KRJR)


Some of you guys are amusing to read on here, if this place has proven anything it's that some of you want your own lil make believe world to be reality. I enjoy throwing different pov's your way just to shake things up a lil, especially when its a similiar comparison of another racer with the current idol here (Rossi).
And some of you will make shit up to prove a point no matter how wrong it is, that cracks me up.
If you think Im making the sh!t up Ill even go as far to share a few off the top of my head:

- "Stoner is only winning cuz he's on the 'best bike'."
Nevermind the exact same thing can be said about Rossi in '00-'03. Nahhh we cant have that.

- "If Stoner didnt have the best equipment (ie..TC, tires) he wouldnt be sh!t, wait til Marco gets there to prove our point."
Well, two points to be had here....1) we're STILL waiting on Marco to prove yalls point and 2) the same can be said about Rossi's HRC yrs in the GP, as mentioned, when half the field were still on 2smokers. No degradation of his championship on that one.

- "You cant possibly compare Stoner's accomplishments to Rossi's."
Cant argue with that, to date there is no comparison, however, what some ppl here, myself included, are saying is this.......putting aside the lower classes, and their age difference, they both share a very similiar careers in the GP.
They were BOTH fallers in their first season with the exception being Rossi was on a much better team/factory support/equipment vs Stoner on a satellite team. And they BOTH became champions in there second yr!
It doesnt get any more similiar than that folks......is Stoner a GOAT?
No and only a fool will say he is or suggest others have said it here BUT he is on an impressive role and similiar path as the current GOAT was in on his 3rd GP season. I dont understand on how anyone can argue with that.

Troll away.

[247]

I think that Stoner might possibly be the next in a long line of riders who looked like they were a threat to Rossi... for very brief period.

Biaggi
Sete
Hayden
Stoner?

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by XFBO

Marky, he's been 'facing' the GOAT for the past 2.5 yrs and one other GP champion......how much more adversity is required?

Who did the GOAT face while in the big leagues, any champions? (and dont bother with KRJR)


Some of you guys are amusing to read on here, if this place has proven anything it's that some of you want your own lil make believe world to be reality. I enjoy throwing different pov's your way just to shake things up a lil, especially when its a similiar comparison of another racer with the current idol here (Rossi).
And some of you will make shit up to prove a point no matter how wrong it is, that cracks me up.
If you think Im making the sh!t up Ill even go as far to share a few off the top of my head:

- "Stoner is only winning cuz he's on the 'best bike'."
Nevermind the exact same thing can be said about Rossi in '00-'03. Nahhh we cant have that.

- "If Stoner didnt have the best equipment (ie..TC, tires) he wouldnt be sh!t, wait til Marco gets there to prove our point."
Well, two points to be had here....1) we're STILL waiting on Marco to prove yalls point and 2) the same can be said about Rossi's HRC yrs in the GP, as mentioned, when half the field were still on 2smokers. No degradation of his championship on that one.

- "You cant possibly compare Stoner's accomplishments to Rossi's."
Cant argue with that, to date there is no comparison, however, what some ppl here, myself included, are saying is this.......putting aside the lower classes, and their age difference, they both share a very similiar careers in the GP.
They were BOTH fallers in their first season with the exception being Rossi was on a much better team/factory support/equipment vs Stoner on a satellite team. And they BOTH became champions in there second yr!
It doesnt get any more similiar than that folks......is Stoner a GOAT?
No and only a fool will say he is or suggest others have said it here BUT he is on an impressive role and similiar path as the current GOAT was in on his 3rd GP season. I dont understand on how anyone can argue with that.

Troll away.

rossi left honda and rode the worst bike on the grid, sounds like adversity no frank? OH, won back to back titles on it too

stoner vs menadri is a joke and you know it. melandris bike and support are completely different than stoners so don't use that a measure

the last couple of years stoner rode the fastest bike on the best tires hands down and now things are getting closer and all of the sudden he is becoming a whoosie

lightning does not strike twice in the same place so watch stoner start a downhill spiral as the rest of the field catches up and put more pressure onthe stoner

[1fast750ss]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

rossi left honda and rode the worst bike on the grid, sounds like adversity no frank? OH, won back to back titles on it too

So what riders on the grid were any threat to him? Biaggi and Sete were already "supposedly" under his "spell"(as you Rossi ball lickers proclaim) and the Duc was crap in '04.

Originally Posted by mrgrn

stoner vs menadri is a joke and you know it. melandris bike and support are completely different than stoners so don't use that a measure

Why?

Originally Posted by mrgrn

the last couple of years stoner rode the fastest bike on the best tires hands down and now things are getting closer and all of the sudden he is becoming a whoosie

Yes on the fastest, blame your precious Honda and Yamaha. BTW, I didn't know you had such inside info at the GP level? YOu must be in the loop or something.........wow.

But let's remember how Casey schooled your God last year when Rossi tried to lay the jedi mind tricks and block Stoner. Did it work? Um, NO! Rossi got his ass spanked at, let me remember......Losail, check.....Istanbul Park, check...Shanghai, check.....well, you get the picture. "Downward spiral was, your Rossi in." as Yoda would say.

Stoner a "whoosie". Let's look at this. He's 22, doing something YOU only masterbate to and making more money than you could've thought about at that age. I respect all riders in that level as Stoner/they have more sac than you and your dress can support there Nancy.

Originally Posted by mrgrn

lightning does not strike twice in the same place so watch stoner start a downhill spiral as the rest of the field catches up and put more pressure on the stoner

I hope you received change for that .02 comment.

Fact is, nobody could argue the double standar Rossi gets, and as great as he is, maybe he deserves some of it. But you leghumpers feel threatened so you plug your ears and scream LALALALALALALALALALA until you think it is safe to come play in the sandbox again. He F'd up in the corkscrew and nobody can deny it. Too hot in and was LUCKY enough to save it as the dirt he rode through could of easily been his( and Stoners') demise at that speed.

Rossi won this one and I hope we see more of this type of racing the rest of the year, as it was the BEST race this year so far. I have a feeling we will see much better racing to come because of this. Let us hope.

[duckdawg]

Originally Posted by 1fast750ss

I hope we see more of this type of racing the rest of the year, as it was the BEST race this year so far. I have a feeling we will see much better racing to come because of this. Let us hope.

that's what I'm talking about, best race Ive seen in two years...

[houze4ursoul]

Wow sounds like we struck a nerve with the "STONER LEGHUMPERS". Just because theyre great at what they do and we are not at the same level of riding doesnt mean we cant criticize and share opinions. No need to get violent there skywallker. And to accuse people of having the "inside info" exactly who are you to deny that the rest of the field, ie, Rossis yami, havent caught up technologically, at least a little bit, with the duc. We all have our opinions and thoughts. And from what it seems yamaha has gotten at least some of their sh*t together and made their bike a little more competitive then last year. That could be why stoner dominated the field last year. All were really saying is that last year your boy, whos nuts your swinging from, won most of his races by checking out. Laguna=9sec gap, Qatar=3sec gap, Turkey=6sec gap, China=3sec gap, Australia-6sec gap, Portugal=4sec gap. Where if you look at rossis win times, theyre much smaller and closer to the rest of the grid. For once your precious princess leia gets roughed up a bit and he cries foul. Dont accuse everyone else of having double standards when youre doing the exact same thing everyone else is.

[Red Enough]

Soup :: Pay It Forward: Rossi Takes It, Then Dishes It :: 07-24-2008

[Gog]

Originally Posted by Red Enough

Soup :: Pay It Forward: Rossi Takes It, Then Dishes It :: 07-24-2008

Soup and it's odious comparisons...
re:Turkey07-Laguna08

Pole sitter Rossi grabbed an early lead but ran wide on the exit of the ultra-fast turn eleven, dropping him down to fifth. The former five-times world champion then battled with Gresini Honda rider Elias for much of the race,
the pair making contact on several occasions
as they fought their way thrillingly towards the front.

[Red Enough]

Originally Posted by Gog

Soup and it's odious comparisons...
re:Turkey07-Laguna08

Two exceptionally good races from this spectators point of view.

[1fast750ss]

Originally Posted by houze4ursoul

Wow sounds like we struck a nerve with the "STONER LEGHUMPERS". Just because theyre great at what they do and we are not at the same level of riding doesnt mean we cant criticize and share opinions. No need to get violent there skywallker. And to accuse people of having the "inside info" exactly who are you to deny that the rest of the field, ie, Rossis yami, havent caught up technologically, at least a little bit, with the duc. We all have our opinions and thoughts. And from what it seems yamaha has gotten at least some of their sh*t together and made their bike a little more competitive then last year. That could be why stoner dominated the field last year. All were really saying is that last year your boy, whos nuts your swinging from, won most of his races by checking out. Laguna=9sec gap, Qatar=3sec gap, Turkey=6sec gap, China=3sec gap, Australia-6sec gap, Portugal=4sec gap. Where if you look at rossis win times, theyre much smaller and closer to the rest of the grid. For once your precious princess leia gets roughed up a bit and he cries foul. Dont accuse everyone else of having double standards when youre doing the exact same thing everyone else is.

See, this is where you are missing the extra link to humankind. I don't speculate and try to think I'm in th GP loop(or any other for that matter), ASSuming anything that sounds remotely close to what an imbecile would believe. Besides, where did I ever show signs of being a leghumper to Stoner? You can't find it, can you? NO! Why you ask; it's simply because I care about a fast, aggressive an fair race, nothing more. Am I a Ducati fan, absolutely and if both Rossi and Stoner were on Ducs, I'd be torn.

Oh, and BTW, the examples you listed above, Stoner didn't reaaly "check out" of those. Losail was a great race with them neck and neck almost the whole way. It was Rossi getting schooled in turn 1(IIRC) where Casey forced him wide as Rossi went in too hot. That's where Rossi lost the race, sound familiar to the last race at LS? Hmmm. It goes both ways, and this time Stoner got schooled by Rossi.

TBS, I don't like or dislike either one of them more or less. I simply pointed out the double standard you guys have for Rossi. Hit you in the pink spot apparently.

Truth being told, I want close action racing the way it should be between the best of the best, nothing more or less. I DO want the Duc riders to win, no doubt, but keep me on the edge of my seat like the last race.

[Latebraker]

What I find amazing is how there are people around here who are still emotional over this, where as I'm sure Rossi and Stoner have moved on from this event.

[TheDrizel]

[sqd8r]

Originally Posted by 1fast750ss

... I simply pointed out the double standard you guys have for Rossi. Hit you in the pink spot apparently...

You used double-standard and Rossi in the same sentence; you in trouble now.

There are race fans and there are Rossi (aka severely chafed leghumper) fans. Race fans appreciate the competition. Race fans recognize, without a plethora of excuses when Rossi was simply beat (Hayden - still stings doesn't it ), while still acknowleding Rossi's brilliance and overall dominance of the modern sport. Race fans enjoy the spectacle that is Moto GP despite the spectacle today not being comparable to the heydays of the 500s.

Rossi leg humpers revel in Rossi only, not Moto GP. The looming problem for the leg humpers but the best part for Moto GP fans is when Rossi retires so will the leg humpers. It's similar to the blind loyalty some have to Ducati, HD, BMW and in one odd little case, the V4 . The problem, for the leg humpers, is that unlike the factories, and like the V4, Rossi will eventually go away and someone else will take the healm. The leg humpers will have nothing to sate themselves with on a seasonal basis. The years of derision the leg humpers held for the other riders on the grid simply won't allow them to enjoy Moto GP like they did in the Rossi era. I'll miss Rossi but I won't miss the leg humpers.

[nomo]

Originally Posted by TheDrizel

HeeHeeHee !! Stoner loses and is embarrassed in front of his wife's idol , Tommy Fooz , and lashes out . What a baby . Even if you're right about VR's aggression (not!) , keep your trap shut b/c you can only look like a sore loser . Look for him to be more charged up in future races and fall again .

[Gog]

Originally Posted by Red Enough

Two exceptionally good races from this spectators point of view.

yip


BTW, gonna use this, it's just too good!

I could play Stairway to Heaven note for note when I was 12 years old.
Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22.
I think that says quite a lot.

[Red Enough]

Originally Posted by Gog

yip


BTW, gonna use this, it's just too good!

I could play Stairway to Heaven note for note when I was 12 years old.
Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22.
I think that says quite a lot.

All yours mate!

[Turbo329]

Originally Posted by TheDrizel

LOL. You beat me to this! I just haven't had the time!!!!!