My carbon gas tank update pics

[20_RC51_00]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

listen, we can banter all day long but i will stick to my wet lay parts and i make nearly 100 different ones.

just because you use some infusion you never bothered to mention how you cure it, post cure it or what you use for a UV inhibitor, why?

you can try to attempt to slander me as always and infer my way is inferior while i continue to make and sell more and more parts

glad you bought a airtech infusion kit and you certainly make top end strong outlet plates

while to continue to infer people are stupid and don't know anything, them same people have me repairing people like your parts. show me how you repair parts, show me your one off custom parts, show me something rather than your i am better and use a superior style

i simple wet lay as there is no NEED to infuse heel guards and such and you and i have spoken about this many times. my style allows me easier custom parts and it fits the needs i have as well as my customers. i will continue to make and sell parts while you infer my way sucks maybe you can be condescendning enough to explain how i can improve my near perfect finish and clearcoat? i use 7 different material choices and VERY high end epoxy resin and post cure all of them as well as clearcoat so armchair me from there bro, what makes them cheap? LOL

OH, half the parts you make i was making more than a year ago LOL

until i see some different parts from you i will take your experience as novel. i am not saying i better than anybody but you certainly sound like that on several threads

i have been where yu are but have you been where i am?

don't mention other people as they are not here man, just you. i don't not answer anybodies questions, i try to answer all of them, where did i not?

and if you don't care and my wet lay is no good why are you in every thread of mine asking me silly questions and telling me how my parts are no good, strikes a nerve and hence the fuk off attitude

how about you NEVER come on one of my threads again, fair enough? how is that for nice toolbag

lol don't flatter yourself, it's not an "air tech " kit... I select all my materials after testing and research bits form here and there. I only make things tha tI would be happy buying, my goal is superior quality . period. regardless of application.

Post cure yes if necessary, Clear coat obviously... these are all basic things anyon with the faintest clue would do... not sure what your point is...

you will never have to repair parts like mine don't flatter yourself I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you it's not worth it...


I never infered that people are stupid, but if you don't have a good knowledge of composites then it's difficult to appreicate the differences that exist between them, you just rely on the old, "why do anythign other then wet lay if you don't need to..." simple...because anythign else is a wasate of time and resources... why not offer the best of all world to customers?

in time people will see the difference between our parts and make their choice accordingly...

[hank]

I like!

I didn't read all of the previous posts as this time of year things get pissy rather quickly, so forgive me if this was already covered...

CF tanks tend to shatter on impact and a spark can make things toasty - what about using an internal bladder that can keep things intact and also prevent any structural leaks or chemical reactions with the resins?

[zen748]

20 RC51 00

Are you a paying sponser of this board?

[XFBO]

Originally Posted by zen748

20 RC51 00

Are you a paying sponser of this board?

Awwww how cute.

Just when I thought this might get good.....

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by 20_RC51_00

lol don't flatter yourself, it's not an "air tech " kit... I select all my materials after testing and research bits form here and there. I only make things tha tI would be happy buying, my goal is superior quality . period. regardless of application.

Post cure yes if necessary, Clear coat obviously... these are all basic things anyon with the faintest clue would do... not sure what your point is...

you will never have to repair parts like mine don't flatter yourself I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you it's not worth it...


I never infered that people are stupid, but if you don't have a good knowledge of composites then it's difficult to appreicate the differences that exist between them, you just rely on the old, "why do anythign other then wet lay if you don't need to..." simple...because anythign else is a wasate of time and resources... why not offer the best of all world to customers?

in time people will see the difference between our parts and make their choice accordingly...

1. so we will see then correct? that what this whole thing was about from the get go, competition and your desire to oust me and build credit for yourself by questioning me

2. you ask me about sealing the tank(fishing troll) then like yur niext post is all on how i will not be able to seal it and you are a expert trying to help LOL you are transparent

3. i did not think you will need to repair your parts but offering repair services for others parts is a service of mine as well as one off parts and i have yet to see ANYTHING you have made yourself but plug outlet covers

4. you constanty infer you offer a quality and post cure, top quality resin, and clearcoat but have yet to show one pic of clearcoated anything, all talk

5. like i said, splain to me where you can see my parts need help and their faults? side by each to termi, akro, QB carbon etc my parts look and work better than them despite my inferior approach

here are some carbonpartz cheap arse exclusive in the world parts i made LOL i offer plenty to customers and am one of the few willing to do custom parts and custom materials

custom twill weave akro guard
custom made gilles twill weave
custom 51 stacks
custom kev CBR tank sides

the list could go on for miles man.

no couth attacking me for your personal gain but have at it i guess

[mrgrn]

here is a twill termi 1098, one off. try getting one of these seperate

OH, got to like the only carbon HRC copy RC30 intake i have seen

[Fokai]

Damn, mrgrn, those are some nice carbon bits

[mrgrn]

thank you but keep in mind you are foolish and uninformed enough to know what is good and what is not

disclaimer: i make most of my parts in wet lay style and this is SLIGHTLY heavier< (grams) and not as advanced as other styles but to toot my own horn i have had companies who make nice parts compliment me on mine regardless and say they have not seen a better wet layup guy

don't worry, VB, INfusion, and prepreg are coming but only when i see it is worth it, for like bodywork and frames not heel guards

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by hank

I like!

I didn't read all of the previous posts as this time of year things get pissy rather quickly, so forgive me if this was already covered...

CF tanks tend to shatter on impact and a spark can make things toasty - what about using an internal bladder that can keep things intact and also prevent any structural leaks or chemical reactions with the resins?

Hank,

It is not the carbon really that shatters, it is the resin that cracks. i am using a nicey, nice bendy resin for this project as i don't need, nor want max rigidity for that reason. i also am using some kevlar on the sides as it lends itself to flexing more than carbon . OH, the RC30 gas tank side will not hit, it is very narrow and carbon and resin do not spark too much

[RockyMt]

Nice work Mark, VERY NICE!

-Rocky-

[zen748]

Yeah Mark, those are pretty parts.

But the question is, can you make me one of these?




I didn't think so!

[20_RC51_00]

Originally Posted by zen748

20 RC51 00

Are you a paying sponser of this board?

Yes I amn as of Dec 07.

[20_RC51_00]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

Hank,

It is not the carbon really that shatters, it is the resin that cracks. i am using a nicey, nice bendy resin for this project as i don't need, nor want max rigidity for that reason. i also am using some kevlar on the sides as it lends itself to flexing more than carbon . OH, the RC30 gas tank side will not hit, it is very narrow and carbon and resin do not spark too much

correction carbon fiber does shatter, that's why F1 uses it in their nose cones and sides to act as an energy disipator upon impacts. KEvlar on the other hand doesn't, you can hardly cut it without the proper scissors...

good luck with your ventures.

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by 20_RC51_00

correction carbon fiber does shatter, that's why F1 uses it in their nose cones and sides to act as an energy disipator upon impacts. KEvlar on the other hand doesn't, you can hardly cut it without the proper scissors...

good luck with your ventures.

there again, preeching to the choir bro, i cut kevlar EVERYday when making my inferior, cheap, wet lay stuff


here is a carbonpartz one off custom 1098/848 twill weave kevlar/carbon swingarm cover and a ducati 999 exhaust guard in red kevlar/carbon and twill against the superior termi one
really i should be wishing you the good luck because it looks like at this point you need it more than me

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by zen748

Yeah Mark, those are pretty parts.

But the question is, can you make me one of these?




I didn't think so!

sorry i failed

[twowheelcossack]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

Hank,

It is not the carbon really that shatters, it is the resin that cracks. i am using a nicey, nice bendy resin for this project as i don't need, nor want max rigidity for that reason. i also am using some kevlar on the sides as it lends itself to flexing more than carbon . OH, the RC30 gas tank side will not hit, it is very narrow and carbon and resin do not spark too much

Yes, but back to the original issue, how will you make it so it doesn't leak after a few years? Just curious.

[Beinggodisgreat]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

sorry i failed

Its ok I mean if your just going to throw away that light switch cover i might be able to find a use for it...I mean if you're just gonna throw it away...

[mrgrn]

Originally Posted by twowheelcossack

Yes, but back to the original issue, how will you make it so it doesn't leak after a few years? Just curious.

what issue? who says there is a issue?

you have blatantly attacked me on several occations and rarely post. your only concern here to troll and fish so move along. these tanks are not for sale and i don't have to explain myself any more than i have done to somebody like you this thread was to give some people a looksy at how to build a tank from scratch not how it will fail and i can't spell LOL

i have already said i don't care if i have to replace the tank every few years and for more info call fulecel they might offer you some more tech info

furthermore, it would be nice if a sponsor could respect another sponsors threads and not try to start crap, something about forum rules might apply here

[hank]

Originally Posted by mrgrn

carbon and resin do not spark too much

Obviously, but while sliding down the pavement other metal bits (rearsets, exhaust, subframe, etc) actual DO spark...