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Because it dumbs down the sport. Look at F1 boring boring boring no passing because all the machines are so equal they just play follow the leader until a pit-stop. In fact I heard they were doing away with TC next year in F1, but I don't really follow it so might just be bullshit...
Everyone that has rode the 800cc says they are very easy to ride "easier than the 250gp bikes" it has been said... Roger Lee jumped on one & made a top 10 finish in his first & only MotoGP I mean not to impugn Bubba's skillset, but had that been a 500cc 2 smoke leg breaker he probably wouldn't have made it past practice...
I want to see racing that pits the talents of the riders against each other & against the machines. This pin the throttle to the stop on the way out of the turn & let the computer do the work for you is bullshit. The riders should be in total control of the machine & the fear of the highside should test the size of their balls in relation to their skill.
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11-14-2007, 10:02 PM
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Wait, how can Rossi be the Man, as he hasn't won as many titles as Giacomo Agostini, surely he is your Man!?  |
Not to mention at least 10 IOM races 
Which is gonna be difficult considering Rossi won't even race at Suzuka due to it being "too dangerous"  .
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11-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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Yep, except for the 80 hp difference (200 to 120) and 19 kgs in weight (190 to 171) they are basically the same bike, aside from looks.
Obviously, one being a Honda can't compete in the looks department, but it is basically the same thing.  |
Basically the same good points test riders are clamoring about the new
Desmodeici they have also scribed about the RC45...
Add 10K worth of HRC bolt on parts and you have 150 RWHP that's stone reliable...
Add the Endurance Race light kit...
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You're talking to a tough crowd here Larry. If they rode one, they might begin to understand.
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Because it dumbs down the sport. Look at F1 boring boring boring no passing because all the machines are so equal they just play follow the leader until a pit-stop. In fact I heard they were doing away with TC next year in F1, but I don't really follow it so might just be bullshit...
Everyone that has rode the 800cc says they are very easy to ride "easier than the 250gp bikes" it has been said... Roger Lee jumped on one & made a top 10 finish in his first & only MotoGP I mean not to impugn Bubba's skillset, but had that been a 500cc 2 smoke leg breaker he probably wouldn't have made it past practice...
I want to see racing that pits the talents of the riders against each other & against the machines. This pin the throttle to the stop on the way out of the turn & let the computer do the work for you is bullshit. The riders should be in total control of the machine & the fear of the highside should test the size of their balls in relation to their skill.
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Love to see the 800 WITHOUT all the electronics and let the riders ride.
My buddy is going to take the Kevin Schwantz school early next year. A question he will ask Kevin is his opinion on all the electronics being used now in MotoGP and if it is helping the less-talented riders ride better than say if they were on the old 500sor even the 990s.
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Because it dumbs down the sport. Look at F1 boring boring boring no passing because all the machines are so equal they just play follow the leader until a pit-stop. In fact I heard they were doing away with TC next year in F1, but I don't really follow it so might just be bullshit...
Everyone that has rode the 800cc says they are very easy to ride "easier than the 250gp bikes" it has been said... Roger Lee jumped on one & made a top 10 finish in his first & only MotoGP I mean not to impugn Bubba's skillset, but had that been a 500cc 2 smoke leg breaker he probably wouldn't have made it past practice...
I want to see racing that pits the talents of the riders against each other & against the machines. This pin the throttle to the stop on the way out of the turn & let the computer do the work for you is bullshit. The riders should be in total control of the machine & the fear of the highside should test the size of their balls in relation to their skill.
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"but had that been a 500cc 2 smoke leg breaker he probably wouldn't have made it past practice..."
great way to view it, he'd still be healing from a broken collar bone or leg no doubt.
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You're talking to a tough crowd here Larry. If they rode one, they might begin to understand.
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LOL I've ridden lots of Ducs & rode several track ready 1098's recently & even got married on one 2 weeks ago. They are quite entertaining & I would love a go at a desmosedici, but they are still piles compared to the quality & reliability of the Big 4 Yes, I got married |
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I want to see racing that pits the talents of the riders against each other & against the machines. This pin the throttle to the stop on the way out of the turn & let the computer do the work for you is bullshit. The riders should be in total control of the machine & the fear of the highside should test the size of their balls in relation to their skill.
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Well, I guess Ill be the first to disagree with this mindset out loud.
This is motorcycle racing not F1, comparing TC to those two sports is a huge difference IMO. In one, it may very well make for a boring race but I dont think motorcycle racing will have that same effect. IMO, our sport has far more variables to riding and winning than any 4 wheeled event.
Plus, there is a safety feature/advantage to having TC in mc racing moreso than in 4wheeled events. You break the rear end loose in a car, you spin out or hit a guard rail, the same happens in our sport it'll send you to the moon. Personally, I LIKE and welcome all technical advancements into our sport.....ALL OF THEM!
Likeminded ppl have had problems with just about every single stage of advancements in motorsports in my life time.....ie. fuel injection, abs, etc........
I mean if you're gonna measure the level of a man/racer why not defeat all the advancements, steering dampers, rev limiters (let those damn engines just blow up , slipper clutches, quickshifters anything and everything that lends some form of aid to a racer?
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11-15-2007, 02:05 AM
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Congrats on the marriage Mike!!!!
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Thank you! I guess as of Nov 4th I own half that pair 
They are actually one of 3 pairs she has as she rides too & has an F4i as well as a 1000RR.
I even let her ride mine too
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Thank you! I guess as of Nov 4th I own half that pair
They are actually one of 3 pairs she has as she rides too & has an F4i as well as a 1000RR.
I even let her ride mine too
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IMO having your 'other half' involved in the sport is AWESOME!
Some of my track buddies and I will debate this every so often, they welcome the get away from their lil ladies, as I DO, at times.....
But I think it'd be pretty cool to enjoy the same hobby with your other half, might get a lil expensive but it sure as hell wouldnt be a problem going away for a track event for a few days. |
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But I think it'd be pretty cool to enjoy the same hobby with your other half, might get a lil expensive but it sure as hell wouldnt be a problem going away for a track event for a few days.
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It's awesome man... I mean it's cool if you can find someone that at least supports what you do or at the very least doesn't bitch when it is time to load up & head to the track, but to be out there on the track playing cat & mouse at 140mph with the person you care the most about well that is priceless! Even better that we share the same religious & political beliefs as well as having the same general outlook on life in general & enjoy the same foods, travel etc... I don't deserve her & I know it, but I'm not letting her go either |
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You're talking to a tough crowd here Larry. If they rode one, they might begin to understand.
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the funniest thing about this thread the last two pages of drivel is the hardest people slamming Rossi are the biggest Hicky Gayden fans |
It was Vale that asserted that the rider is the most important component. 
Why has this historical statement been such an issue with you these past 2yrs.?
Vale can eat crow or humble pie, either way he has the same chance as everyone else to prove himself NEXT season.
Since Vale contradicted himself I'll entertain the thought, but that's about it. It raises the question if the package is a sum of unequal parts would he tell us if he had cards up his sleeve? All this speculation is fun but the results are tangible and take no leap of faith.
I know in Golf everyone lies about their handicap.
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Just a few thoughts :
F1 is indeed eliminating TC next year, and the races have been boring with little passing not b/c the cars are so close in performance but b/c they're not.
BTW, as desirable as the RC-45 is--I have a spot reserved in my garage for one , if only the bank account would allow--to compare it to the 210+HP Desmo16 is stretching credulity I think.
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LOL I've ridden lots of Ducs & rode several track ready 1098's recently & even got married on one 2 weeks ago. They are quite entertaining & I would love a go at a desmosedici, but they are still piles compared to the quality & reliability of the Big 4 Yes, I got married |
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Couple things here...
What happened to the Rossi who moved to Yamaha from Honda for the challenge it presented? He got bored on a competitive bike...remember?
I'm disappointed more people aren't talking about what Melandri might be able to pull off on that Duc. He's going to be fast.
I, for one, am for TC and all the other technological developments Moto GP had brought. You need to consider all the good things the sport has brought to us mortals. Tires, slipper clutches, radial calipers, suspension, etc... I suppose the racing would be more exciting on air cooled bikes with polyglass tries, steel frames, spring suspensions, and leather drive belts.
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