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11-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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True but some power bands are easier on the racer than others... talk to Rossi...
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11-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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i doubt he has lost confidence in himself, pleeez  5 time champs even losing some do not lose confidence in themselves.
He is doing that to shake yaamaha/michelin up some, put up or i am gone and good for him i would expect that completely
would you have him stay on a team not commited to winning when you are prolly the greatest racer to ever ride???
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Well he doesn't have to worry about Michelin anymore now does he.
The only place his bike suffered was top speed and acceleration which did improve during the year.
Wayne Rainey had way worse than Rossi ever did with Yamaha, wasn't he giving up like 19 Kmh at Hockenhiem one year and he still won the race.
In the mental games catagory Rainey would have cracked Rossi like a walnut. 
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11-12-2007, 11:47 PM
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Ducati boss cautious on Rossi future talk
By Michele Lostia and Pablo ElizaldeMonday, November 12th 2007, 12:06 GMT
Ducati team boss Livio Suppo was cautious when responding to Valentino Rossi's comments, in which the Italian rider hinted at a future with the team.
Rossi suggested he is ready to leave Yamaha at the end of 2008 if his bike doesn't prove competitive next season.
"If it gets better I can wait another year. If not there is nothing left to do," Rossi told Gazzetta dello Sport. "I have a good relationship with both (Ducati and Honda), but definitely I would prefer Ducati because they are Italian."
Suppo knows Italian fans would welcome the move, but the Ducati boss is cautious about the prospect of the seven-time champion riding for them.
"It's definitely too early to talk about 2009," Suppo told Gazzetta dello Sport. "And then I must be careful: whether I say a yes or a no, it will be interpreted in any case in a misleading way.
"I can certainly say that, from some fringes of our fans, we get the request, or rather the desire, to see Rossi on our bike, in order to come up with a fight with Stoner on truly equal footing.
"We've never talked about it explicitly, but like every racing rider, Stoner has always made it clear that as far as he's concerned he can be teamed up with anyone. In my opinion he is in such a state of grace that he wouldn't be afraid to be challenged.
"We have a deal for the next two years with Marco Melandri, we count a lot on him, and a three-year deal with Stoner. We'd like to extend it with Casey (Stoner), and maybe he'd like that too, as one of his idols is Mick Doohan, who was always with Honda.
"Anything can change, but Casey seems willing to go his way with us."
Suppo also denied rumours that Ducati are preparing a third bike for Rossi for 2008.
"I've heard this rumour too and I really can't figure out where it originated from," he added. "I don't think something like this could be done without me knowing about it. So I say that it's absolutely impossible, for the simple reason that the bike doesn't exist.
"The parts to build it have simply not been ordered. At the moment the mechanics are building the bikes, but they are Casey's and Marco's which will have their debut at the end of the month in Jerez."
He added: "That was an operation meant to be done with Loris (Capirossi), who had been with us for five years, from our debut to now. Frankly thinking of something like that seems hasty to me. At least at the moment: Valentino himself says that it's absurd. Season apart, let's call it a mid-summer dream.
"I'm happy about the 9 (marks out of 10) Rossi gave us: it shows the appreciation for the work done this year. Besides, it's true that that admiration goes two-ways.
"However, if he marked his season with an 8, he should have given Casey a 10 since he has made no mistakes."
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11-12-2007, 11:59 PM
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Rossi Rossi Rossi... Am I the only one that can't wait to see him leave the sport? Jesus, it's time for something new. I'm tired of him. I've been tired of him for years. I don't care how good he is/was, how funny his pranks are, how bold and brave he was to move to Yamaha or how crafty he is with the mind games. It's time for him to move on to something else.
There is nothing else that he can accomplish on 2 wheels and tarmac.
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11-13-2007, 12:00 AM
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How long is Melandri's contract with Ducati?
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11-13-2007, 12:04 AM
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I simply cannot believe Rossi has resorted to making excuses before the season even fukn begins? What a fukn loser! From champ to chump in 2 quick years. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Man, you are funny. That's right, Rossi is making excuses. Right. Let's see, Ducati with their TC and electronics along with Bridgestone spanked everyone this year. Rossi was the only one that even came close to (and sometimes beat) Stoner. So, Rossi was not trying at all...he is just in fro the money I guess.
Rossi is saying what everyone knows. Yamaha sucked this year. Yamaha needs to get their act together. Very simple.
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11-13-2007, 12:06 AM
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Rossi Rossi Rossi... Am I the only one that can't wait to see him leave the sport? Jesus, it's time for something new. I'm tired of him. I've been tired of him for years. I don't care how good he is/was, how funny his pranks are, how bold and brave he was to move to Yamaha or how crafty he is with the mind games. It's time for him to move on to something else.
There is nothing else that he can accomplish on 2 wheels and tarmac.
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Rossi will win another championship then he'll be off.
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11-13-2007, 01:49 AM
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Rossi will win another championship then he'll be off.
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Best of luck to him on that one. His own team didn't do well last year and the talent pool is growing deeper and deeper. He's not the dominant force that he once was.
He's over.
His next championship won't be in MotoGP. He should have bought a fire retardant suit and a Simpson helmet for his next career in 4 wheel racing.
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11-13-2007, 03:33 AM
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He's over.
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That's what they said about my riding too but it ain't over until you can't
get the walker close enough to hop on the saddle...

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11-13-2007, 03:40 AM
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Bring back the 500's and no traction control and lets watch Rossi kick Stoner's ass. Isn't the 2 stroke 500's what Stoner has been saying he'd wish we were back to instead since the 800's are SOOOOOOOO easy to ride? Either that or get rid of his precious traction control and gps controlled computer aids. Get rid of all that crap...
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11-13-2007, 03:43 AM
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Who are you again?
Ahh, right, Internet Champ 2007.
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Losers make excuses! And Rossi's list seems to be ENDLESS!
Painful for you to read, but with a little therapy, even YOU will come to grips that Rossi's done. From Champ, to runner up, to last step of the podium...............what's next? Oh, more excuses. 
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11-13-2007, 03:46 AM
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Get rid of all that crap...
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Yeah, lets get rid of EVERYTHING Rossi doesn't like, has blamed, or is the excuse for him not winning. Right? Yawn........ Doesn't it get old for you people to avoid reality?
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11-13-2007, 03:55 AM
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I don't give two shits what Rossi wants or cares about. I find this racing boring regardless of who is winning. I take Roger Hayden's comments the most serious when he says mid turn you just mash the throttle and hold on. His ama sbk can't even do that. Get rid of traction control and any rider aids like that so the riders have to actually *gasp* ride. Frankly I think such a change would favor my man Nicky Hayden more then it would Rossi possibly.
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11-13-2007, 04:01 AM
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Rossi was the only one that even came close to (and sometimes beat) Stoner.
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Hmmmm what about the guy who came in 2nd in the championship?
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11-13-2007, 05:35 AM
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Speedzilla....the alternate reality series continues ad infinitum.
S'funny how MGP went from some of the best racing I've seen the last few years (last year) to some of the most boiring (this year), despite the Duc/Casey/Bridgestone breath-of-fresh-air dominance.
Where's my man Schwantz on his 500 again? Now THAT was a racing era.
Shit, I'm sounding old...
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11-13-2007, 05:48 AM
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Hmmmm what about the guy who came in 2nd in the championship?
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LOLLLLLLLLLL, that's some funny chit!
Don't forget, Dani's wins don't count. Actually, no one's wins count except Rossi's. And even though Dani won TWICE and had as many podiums as Rossi, he STILL didn't beat or even sniff the back tire of Stoner. 
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11-13-2007, 06:13 AM
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And even though Dani won TWICE and had as many podiums as Rossi, he STILL didn't beat or even sniff the back tire of Stoner. 
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.....and that right there tells a story.
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11-13-2007, 06:35 AM
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Love all these Internet Chumps. Yeah, Rossi is sh*t etc.
When, if and when, Stoner or others win as many titles as Rossi, then I'll call them great. Until then Rossi is still the man.
I've posted what the real experts have said about Stoner's bike and they just happened to know more than all you nay sayers.
If you don't like Rossi, fine. Leave at that.
F**k, no one here know what the f88k we are talking about (myself included) but I will take the views of experts like Mamola over any of the experts here.
F**k, bunch of Bit*hes.
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11-13-2007, 07:15 AM
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F**k, no one here know what the f88k we are talking about (myself included) but I will take the views of experts like Mamola over any of the experts here.
F**k, bunch of Bit*hes.
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You're very angry? Why? If you take Rossi getting his ass handed to him TWO seasons in a row this seriously, then maybe you should consider counseling or lifecoaching?  Otherwise, you may wind up here sooner rather than later.

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11-13-2007, 07:48 AM
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Yeap, I'm very angry that I'm actually responding to posts like this.
You are, Jami6989, much better than I and I will regard your posts as the word on motorcycle racing, culture and especially on Rossi. You are indeed a great scholar on MotoGP and all that goes on in the world of MotoGP (and I'm sure I can extend that to other racing series as well). You are the expert and the ones that have raced in the series and know the riders personally means nothing.
It was very unfortunate that Rossi lost it on the last race last year giving Hayden his title. And it is unfortunate the Rossi was riding on a bike that was inferior to the Ducati. Thank goodness Stoner had his TC and all the Electronics on his Ducati. Otherwise, we would have had to call Dani the new Champion. Horrors.
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You're very angry? Why? If you take Rossi getting his ass handed to him TWO seasons in a row this seriously, then maybe you should consider counseling or lifecoaching?  Otherwise, you may wind up here sooner rather than later.

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