Hmmm.....little snippet of an English translation of a Rossi interview conducted in Eyetalian, natch.......
You have thought about a change in the configuration of the motor, because the four in line it seems that no longer it gives more of himself?
"I believe that at this moment and perhaps in the future," V4 "is the best configuration. I do not know if it would give time us to make a new motor in so just a short time, Yamaha must pawn the next year much more, but I think that it would be possible to be done. It will be necessary to see, because if wants that it follows with them they must make an effort. But I trust them, we have a great relation and I speak much with Furusawa, and to have direct thread with him is very important so that our relation goes good that. They know that this year they have failed and surely that the next one will do it better ".
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Hmmm.....little snippet of an English translation of a Rossi interview conducted in Eyetalian, natch.......
You have thought about a change in the configuration of the motor, because the four in line it seems that no longer it gives more of himself?
"I believe that at this moment and perhaps in the future," V4 "is the best configuration. I do not know if it would give time us to make a new motor in so just a short time, Yamaha must pawn the next year much more, but I think that it would be possible to be done. It will be necessary to see, because if wants that it follows with them they must make an effort. But I trust them, we have a great relation and I speak much with Furusawa, and to have direct thread with him is very important so that our relation goes good that. They know that this year they have failed and surely that the next one will do it better ".
Hmmm.....little snippet of an English translation of a Rossi interview conducted in Eyetalian, natch.......
You have thought about a change in the configuration of the motor, because the four in line it seems that no longer it gives more of himself?
"I believe that at this moment and perhaps in the future," V4 "is the best configuration. I do not know if it would give time us to make a new motor in so just a short time, Yamaha must pawn the next year much more, but I think that it would be possible to be done. It will be necessary to see, because if wants that it follows with them they must make an effort. But I trust them, we have a great relation and I speak much with Furusawa, and to have direct thread with him is very important so that our relation goes good that. They know that this year they have failed and surely that the next one will do it better ".
Can you name the source??? MotoGp Mary speaks Rossi...
Refer to Pedrosa v Stoner 2005 and Pedrosa v Stoner 2006 for two season's worth of data to support that conclusion.
More evidence can be found by looking at the 2 full seasons that each did on 125's.
Stoner had 2 wins and a best of 5th in the Championship.
Pedrosa had 8 wins and won a championship.
Mamola is looking at 2 years of 125 racing with equipment that is very equal in the top half of the field. He's also looking at 1 year of 250 racing head to head where each had top machinery and equal tires, as well as 1 year of MotoGP racing where each was a rookie on a Honda 990 and Michelins. In all those scenarios Dani performed better.
Except in every scenario above Pedrosa has had better equipment and probably better tires than Stoner, Casey ran the first time effort for KTM in 125's then was in a privateer Aprilia 250 against a full factory Honda.
Again Stoner was on a privateer RCV against the factory Repsol bike last year and on standard Michelin tires, not the flown in Sunday specials that the top Michelin guys have missed this year. I'd like to see them on equal machinery. Don't forget in the second half of the 250 season (Stoners first season on that bike) he was beating Pedrosa by some quite big margins.
Except in every scenario above Pedrosa has had better equipment and probably better tires than Stoner, Casey ran the first time effort for KTM in 125's then was in a privateer Aprilia 250 against a full factory Honda.
Again Stoner was on a privateer RCV against the factory Repsol bike last year and on standard Michelin tires, not the flown in Sunday specials that the top Michelin guys have missed this year. I'd like to see them on equal machinery. Don't forget in the second half of the 250 season (Stoners first season on that bike) he was beating Pedrosa by some quite big margins.
+1. Any avid (and impartial) observer should be well aware of the same..........
Casey has been kicking ass since he first climbed on a motorcycle, he don't care if it's substandard equipment or whatever, he's always in it to win...
or crash out trying...
WOW!
So you're going to claim that Dani got preferential treatment regarding tires as a 1st year 125 GP rider?
And that Dani's Honda was superior to Casey's LCR factory Aprilia? Comeon: The Hondas have been out gunned power-wise by Aprilia's disc valve RSW 250 for years.
Want to deny again that Stoner's bike was factory spec?
An exerpt: "The 250 World Championship ended with Aprilia in second place in the manufacturer’s classification, separated from the leader only by ten points. Of the riders, Casey Stoner was the best... atop the official RSW 250 that was entrusted to Team Carrera Sunglasses..."
And why would Dunlop (250 spec tire provider) give preference to Honda in 2005 over the whole factory Aprilia squad?
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Originally Posted by kiwigav
Except in every scenario above Pedrosa has had better equipment and probably better tires than Stoner, Casey ran the first time effort for KTM in 125's then was in a privateer Aprilia 250 against a full factory Honda.
Again Stoner was on a privateer RCV against the factory Repsol bike last year and on standard Michelin tires, not the flown in Sunday specials that the top Michelin guys have missed this year. I'd like to see them on equal machinery. Don't forget in the second half of the 250 season (Stoners first season on that bike) he was beating Pedrosa by some quite big margins.
WOW!
So you're going to claim that Dani got preferential treatment regarding tires as a 1st year 125 GP rider?
And that Dani's Honda was superior to Casey's LCR factory Aprilia? Comeon: The Hondas have been out gunned power-wise by Aprilia's disc valve RSW 250 for years.
Want to deny again that Stoner's bike was factory spec?
An exerpt: "The 250 World Championship ended with Aprilia in second place in the manufacturer’s classification, separated from the leader only by ten points. Of the riders, Casey Stoner was the best... atop the official RSW 250 that was entrusted to Team Carrera Sunglasses..."
And why would Dunlop (250 spec tire provider) give preference to Honda in 2005 over the whole factory Aprilia squad?
Has this guy EVER lost an argument?
Stop trying boys it aint gonna happen nor would he ever admit it. Whomever has the honor of having Jeff's backing will always be the winner of any [non]debate.
Stop trying boys it aint gonna happen nor would he ever admit it. Whomever has the honor of having Jeff's backing will always be the winner of any [non]debate.
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
5 titles with Michelin, 2 bad seasons not completely tire related and the bandwagon has been jumped. I think this will come back to bite Rossi. I believe Edwards is staying with Michelin so no development information related to tires will be shared. Given that Yamaha is staying with everything else I really wonder if tires alone are going to see rossi win a title in 2008 or ever again, on a Yamaha. I wonder if Yamaha can make the inroads that Ducati has been able to enjoy this season esp. when you consider engine configurations and power delivery differences of the Bridgestone shod machines, Ducati, v. the I4 Yamaha. Any I4 teams on Bridgestones? I can't find that info online.
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
FWIW, Kurtis Roberts said that the better riders are not winning the races this year. He specifically said Pedrosa and Rossi are have more talent than Stoner.
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WOW!
So you're going to claim that Dani got preferential treatment regarding tires as a 1st year 125 GP rider?
And that Dani's Honda was superior to Casey's LCR factory Aprilia? Comeon: The Hondas have been out gunned power-wise by Aprilia's disc valve RSW 250 for years.
Want to deny again that Stoner's bike was factory spec?
An exerpt: "The 250 World Championship ended with Aprilia in second place in the manufacturer’s classification, separated from the leader only by ten points. Of the riders, Casey Stoner was the best... atop the official RSW 250 that was entrusted to Team Carrera Sunglasses..."
And why would Dunlop (250 spec tire provider) give preference to Honda in 2005 over the whole factory Aprilia squad?
You could make a pretty good case for Dani being damn near a superhero this year.
Considering the bike and tires.
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Nice work!
FWIW, Kurtis Roberts said that the better riders are not winning the races this year. He specifically said Pedrosa and Rossi are have more talent than Stoner.
Tires, motor, bike, what the hell happened to the Rider is 90%/Bike is 10%? When Rossi wins he is the "best rider on the slowest bike", when he loses it's because he's the "best rider on the slowest bike" plus a list of 17 excuses, none of which are ever his fault like crashing for example .
Hayden wins the Championship but is critisized for not winning enough races.
Stoner wins the Championship but is critisized for winning too many races.
Rossi was even beat by Pedro who is on a slower bike(RC212V is a joke) on the same tires. Next year Rossi will be on the Bridgestone tires and he will get his own garage at that, talk about an entire team rallying behind him!
No more excuses(I have a feeling the biased Rossi nuthuggers will be full of them ).
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Quote Furusawa:
"We have made a lot of computer simulations of a V4 and we have found good and bad points," Furusawa said in a media presentation. Yamaha preferred the in-line four because it permits a more compact engine and a shorter wheelbase.
V4 GOOD POINTS:
1) Cube-like crankcase are inherently more rigid than the longer,
beam-like case of an I4 engine.
2) Short V4 crankshaft travels less and weights less than an I4...
3) 90º V4 has perfect primary balance, a great improvement over
the buzzy, second-order vibration of an I4...
4) A narrow V4 affords up to a 35% reduction in aerodynamic drag over
the wide I4...
5) A V4 has less internal crank bearing friction and able to deliver
more rear wheel HP...
6) A V4 sports superior power delivery and able to achieve greater
tire grip...
7) Rossi believes more in the new V4 than the old I4...
8) The V4 exceeds the current I4 in MotoGp...
V4 BAD POINTS:
1) More costly...
2) "Yamaha's in-line four has a more compact engine and a shorter
wheelbase."
3) "We stick with the I4" because V4s are not a part of Yamaha's plans
to dominate WSBK...
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