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Old 10-27-2007, 04:40 AM
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But for Heaven's sake, stop trying to belittle the guy for DOMINATING Rossi. He ate Rossi for breakfast, lunch and dinner ...
If you managed to see through the myopia, you'd notice that I have repeatedly said that Casey did a FANTASTIC job...and I actually rooted for him all season.

Your sentance...."He ate Rossi for breakfast, lunch and dinner .." is as amusing as it is short of the truth...and you know it.

It is NEVER solely the rider, NEVER solely the tires, NEVER solely the bike...it is ALWAYS the full package, and as I already said quite clearly, Casey + Ducati + Bridgestone was the best package this year, by FAR.

My contention, against the few anti-Rossi humpers like yourself, is that Rossi as a rider is not "past it", or "beaten" or, as you so amusingly put it...(eaten) for breakfast.

If my OPINION clashes with your own, then that's VERY cool with me. Given the level of your argument, I frankly prefer that our opinions differ anyway.

I'll tell ya a little secret. Your anti-Rossi passion far, FAR exceeds any pro-Rossi passion of my own.

Here's to Melandri next year then, eh?
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:56 AM
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And since Rossi is struggling to get to Nicky's point total from his 2006 MotoGP World Championship season, it must mean that Rossi's DONE!
cept rossi is second in the standings this year and has multiple other GP wins and chapionships to back his stature and Nicky has naught
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cept rossi is second in the standings this year
Oh, don't forget he was 2nd last year too. Two years and counting..........
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My contention, against the few anti-Rossi humpers like yourself, is that Rossi as a rider is not "past it", or "beaten" or, as you so amusingly put it...(eaten) for breakfast.
Of course he's not "beaten", it was the tires' fault. Ironic that u mentioned seeing through the myopia.
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Of course he's not "beaten", it was the tires' fault. Ironic that u mentioned seeing through the myopia.
hehe. I give you full marks for dedication to the "cause."

So.... are we're rooting for Melandri, or Stoner, or Hayden next year?
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OB,

Jamie is a troll and will root for the next best or anybody else that can put him in a position to be "against" jUst liek Frank

Jamie was a rossi fan before, now a Nicky fan(slowly fading) and will be nect years fan for sure

I have ALWAYS liked rossi and did not switch just becasue he went to yamaha, i just bought a yamaha too j/k
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Oh, don't forget he was 2nd last year too. Two years and counting..........

so 5 championships, the 2 times runner up, not bad IMO
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Rossi was truly great and he may one day rise to the top again. I think Stoner becoming a great rider in his own right will likely be one of the major stumbling blocks that prevent Rossi's return to championship status. Next year, Rossi will be on Stones and if he fails to prevail, his legend will be diminished somewhat. He will still and always be considered great but a GOAT can't be shut out three years and a row, can he?

The fact is, other than 2004, every one of Rossi's titles were obtained while took full advantage of having the best tires (all Michelins are not created equal) the best bikes and the the best crew. I didn't hold that against Rossi and I don't hold it against Stoner today. I sincerely believe that if you put 85% of the MotoGP riders on any of Rossi's HRC/Yamaha bikes or Casey's Ducati, they still don't win a title. The rider always remains a critical factor.
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Rossi was truly great and he may one day rise to the top again. I think Stoner becoming a great rider in his own right will likely be one of the major stumbling blocks that prevent Rossi's return to championship status. Next year, Rossi will be on Stones and if he fails to prevail, his legend will be diminished somewhat. He will still and always be considered great but a GOAT can't be shut out three years and a row, can he?

The fact is, other than 2004, every one of Rossi's titles were obtained while took full advantage of having the best tires (all Michelins are not created equal) the best bikes and the the best crew. I didn't hold that against Rossi and I don't hold it against Stoner today. I sincerely believe that if you put 85% of the MotoGP riders on any of Rossi's HRC/Yamaha bikes or Casey's Ducati, they still don't win a title. The rider always remains a critical factor.
so explain Nicky then with your equation
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so explain Nicky then with your equation
Speaking of equations, you ever going to address those stats.
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Speaking of equations, you ever going to address those stats.

right after i see where everybody including me have been bashing stoner and not giving him due respect
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Speaking of equations, you ever going to address those stats.

address what? the facts you posted, what am i to address about them?

the nearest ducati to the stoner is back a bit but then again so is the nearest yamaha to rossi etc
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so explain Nicky then with your equation
There's nothing to explain. He deservedly won a title with a good team, a good bike and good tires. There's no such thing as a fluke title over the course of a 17 race season. I'm really sorry if that continues to unnerve you but that's a simple fact that seems to remain painfully stuck in the craw of some folks. Get well soon!
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There's nothing to explain. He deservedly won a title with a good team, a good bike and good tires. There's no such thing as a fluke title over the course of a 17 race season.
Unless the winner isn't Rossi. Cuz if Rossi didn't win, then the winner isn't deserving for a myriad of reasons. Most of which are the same reasons Rossi DID win most of his Championships.

One day the Rossi manlovers will be able to see through the myopia and understand it all. Two year drought and counting.........................
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so explain Nicky then with your equation
The rider w/ the most points won the 2006 MotoGP World Championship! Just like every other year?

Nicky tells you how many years u've been waiting for a Championship.......
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right after i see where everybody including me have been bashing stoner and not giving him due respect
Never said you were but your arguments regarding the bike v. Stoner or rossi don't jibe when you actually look at the stats.
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Unless the winner isn't Rossi. Cuz if Rossi didn't win, then the winner isn't deserving for a myriad of reasons. Most of which are the same reasons Rossi DID win most of his Championships.

One day the Rossi manlovers will be able to see through the myopia and understand it all. Two year drought and counting.........................
Pretty much covers my point. I'm outta here.
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tough to swallow when you find out that your GOAT is really a man behind a curtain with a microphone and some fancy gadgets.I will continue to say that being on 'stones may not be the answer Rossi is looking for.
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Just love reading what the experts are saying around here.

Until Casey wins 5 or more titles, he is IMO a good racer not a great one. He, Ducati, and Bridgestone did a fantastic job this year but it helps when Ducati has the best TC on the grid.

Randy Mamola has stated that if Casey was on Nicky's bike this year, Casey would not be the world champion.

Win. Wipe Out. Repeat. - New York Times

“Futuristic things like traction control, it's cutting down the role of the talent,” says Randy Mamola, the ex-racer and now a television commentator. “If you put [Stoner] on Nicky's bike, he wouldn't have won any races. I guarantee that.”

So, that's what the expert says...fire away...
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Just love reading what the experts are saying around here.

Until Casey wins 5 or more titles, he is IMO a good racer not a great one. He, Ducati, and Bridgestone did a fantastic job this year but it helps when Ducati has the best TC on the grid.

Randy Mamola has stated that if Casey was on Nicky's bike this year, Casey would not be the world champion.

Win. Wipe Out. Repeat. - New York Times

“Futuristic things like traction control, it's cutting down the role of the talent,” says Randy Mamola, the ex-racer and now a television commentator. “If you put [Stoner] on Nicky's bike, he wouldn't have won any races. I guarantee that.”

So, that's what the expert says...fire away...

i agree 100% except Bsess will tell you Randy is not qualified enough to have a opinion worth hearing
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