"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
admit it or not, Rossi has tripped over his own dick alot this season, and pulled more than one boneheaded move out of desperation...
Yup and this tire move is another one. I've never cared who won the title over the years but seeing rossi pressure Dorna to pressure Bridgestone for tires certainly makes me root for every other rider on the grid next season. Pedrosa was never a favorite of mine so he would never have been on my radar.
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
Yup and this tire move is another one. I've never cared who won the title over the years but seeing rossi pressure Dorna to pressure Bridgestone for tires certainly makes me root for every other rider on the grid next season. Pedrosa was never a favorite of mine so he would never have been on my radar.
but ducati strong arming WSBK for more CC's is better for you???
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You BonerforStoner folks refuse to acknowledge that this season was unique.
A- Stoner had the best bike AND the best tires.
B- No one else with the best tires (Suzuki and Kawasaki) had a bike that could compete with the Ducati.
C- The top guys on Michelins were doubly screwed because their bikes (Yamha and Hona) were lacking AND the tires were 2nd best.
Now you are going to ask why none of the other Ducati riders could hang with Stoner. Well, obviously the riders of the D'Antin bikes (Hoffman and Barros) don't have the skills, they would have been fighting for 15th if they were on the Tech 3 machines. Capirossi struggled terribly with the 800cc Ducati, primarily because the very sophisticated electronics of the bike do not suit his (very agressive throttle application) riding style.
The reality is that Capirossi under-performed (versus Stoner being the overnight GOAT). This is evidenced by the fact that Ducati spent a lot of money and went out and signed Melandri. Factories that feel that they have the best rider in the world on their bike don't go out and hire a potential rival. They hire an experienced veteran... like Loris.
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Wow...
So Stoner is B level talent now... Jeebus, I'm surprised he got a contact extension.
So when Rossi was on the best bike on the grid for 3 years running it was?
See I'm willing to accept your arguement regarding "best bike on the grid" but that means that according to the stats rossi had a hell of an easy time while at Honda, certainly the best outgoing 500 and new gen 990 on the grid. This sort of takes the wind out of Rossi's legendary status when arguing that 3 titles were a forgone conclusion when any B rider could have won the title.
Why would Bridgestone refuse to provide tires to the top GP rider on the circuit?
Because they would get better bang for their buck by beating the GOAT if he was stuck on Michelins.
Yamaha requested Bridgestones for next year, and B'stone said no way, stay on your Michelins so we can beat you. Respsol Honda was told the same thing.
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Yup and this tire move is another one. I've never cared who won the title over the years but seeing rossi pressure Dorna to pressure Bridgestone for tires certainly makes me root for every other rider on the grid next season. Pedrosa was never a favorite of mine so he would never have been on my radar.
Factories that feel that they have the best rider in the world on their bike don't go out and hire a potential rival. They hire an experienced veteran... like Loris.
Really? Is that why HRC hired Hayden when they had Rossi?
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No bias concerned with my comment. Rossi is a whiner, Hayden beat him thru consistency, Stoner dominated this year. Now Rossi wants 'stones and is pressuring Dorna for them. IMHO he should worry about paying his taxes not what tires he might be on! Stoner may or may not look good next year, we'll have to wait and see. I take nothing from Rossi's ability, he is obviously one of the greatest to ever mount a GP bike. Just tired of the excuses, and u leghumpers trying to diminish other riders accomplishments.
The tire rules announcement is now postponed until Friday.
Now Dani's asking why Rossi/Yamaha can have 'stones and Repsol Honda can't.
"Sources close to Valentino Ross are saying that Bridgestone has agreed in principal to supply him tires. If this is the case, Dorna will withdraw the proposal for a single-tire system and present a new proposal from the tire companies that will allow the minimum number of tires used to increase from 31 to 40 and will allow riders to make their final choice of race tires after the first free practice two days ahead of the race"
Why would Bridgestone refuse to provide tires to the top GP rider on the circuit?
Because they would get better bang for their buck by beating the GOAT if he was stuck on Michelins.
Yamaha requested Bridgestones for next year, and B'stone said no way, stay on your Michelins so we can beat you. Respsol Honda was told the same thing.
That's right it's the world against rossi. Man that's some twisted logic esp. when Burgess is against the move. Explain that please?
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Originally Posted by Busy Little Shop The [fact] that the RC45 was a "relative failure" is what matters most...
Like I said before....
All of the riders jumping off the SS Michellin are showing premature decision making that could hurt them in the future.
Agreed. I think it's a mistake for Rossi to switch to Bridgestones. Personally, I don't think it's the tires that won the championship this year. I think it's the superior electronic package of the Ducati. Just look at Stoner's performance in the rain races.
Well this is first year that Stoner was on a truly factory machine and with a
tire company that really works hard to please him... but so is Rossi... it's not
like Rossi in on a satellite team on second tier tires... nope... when Rossi sees
Stoner out in the lead he knows he must fight to the finish... OK we might see
battles like Roberts versus Spencer... Rainey versus Schwantz... so it's going
to be more exciting when two MotoGp racers of *equal* talent declare
war on one an other...
No bias concerned with my comment. Rossi is a whiner, Hayden beat him thru consistency, Stoner dominated this year. Now Rossi wants 'stones and is pressuring Dorna for them. IMHO he should worry about paying his taxes not what tires he might be on! Stoner may or may not look good next year, we'll have to wait and see. I take nothing from Rossi's ability, he is obviously one of the greatest to ever mount a GP bike. Just tired of the excuses, and u leghumpers trying to diminish other riders accomplishments.
who has diminished other riders accomplishments?
show me where that has happened???????????
rossi saying the stones are far better are facts, not complaints. if you were at work and needed a better tool that others had and you felt it was in your best interest you would not whine and ask for it? If i was the best rider even to ride a bike i would be whining for everything i wanted to help make me the best
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
Jeebus, I'm surprised he got a contact extension.
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