I bought the Yamaha Laguna/old-school looking type. Of what I know from talking to them, their leathers are made in Asia.. and that's about it. They do seem to stand behind their claim of 'high-quality'.
Anyways, if these don't work out I'll just return them and pick up an RS-Taichi
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I bought the Yamaha Laguna/old-school looking type. Of what I know from talking to them, their leathers are made in Asia.. and that's about it. They do seem to stand behind their claim of 'high-quality'.
Anyways, if these don't work out I'll just return them and pick up an RS-Taichi
Could you give us some feedback once you receive the suit. I am curios to know what you think of it. It might be something I could use for street riding.
I notice on the legs (the rear) is leather, and not neoprene like higher quality suits. Also, towards the rear of the crotch area. I would interested in getting some objective feedback on them.
How do you know if they will "work out" until you hit the ground?
I say go with the best you can afford. that goes with any safety gear.
BTW: I have some Alpinestars for sale here in the classifieds and on eBay.
eddie
thats not always true some start up companies sell there stuff for next to nothing just to get their name out and they have high quality, while sometimes higher end companies put out crap because they know that people will buy them, this could just be a deal.
hullspeed
when you get your suit could you put up a report because if they are worth it I will deffantly buy a suit
thats not always true some start up companies sell there stuff for next to nothing just to get their name out and they have high quality, while sometimes higher end companies put out crap because they know that people will buy them, this could just be a deal.
hullspeed
when you get your suit could you put up a report because if they are worth it I will deffantly buy a suit
I actually spoke to the guys at this place today. They return calls pronto, and are pretty upfront and honest about their stuff.
They can do a small margin of custom work, but something as simple as changing lettering can run you an extra $200 on the suit. So, we start getting up in prize. Other thing he mentioned, they are made in Pakistan, and even though they are do not have the most supple leather in the world - as long as it is drum dryed / dyed, it should be camparable to other suits. IN all honesty, it is not primarily the leather or hide that saves you completely - it is the way it is assembled, the way it is stitched, etc.
Their leather is apparently 1.3 mm, not a big deal as most leather suits are 1.4 mm in their thickest parts. One impressive thing they do is they sew their elbow CE armour into place and velcro the shoulder padding / armour. That is the mark of usually more expensive suits. If the report from Hullspeed is favourable, I will buy one of these suits - before they start charging what they might be worth. Think about this - it costs an $35 just to get a patch sewn on your suit. Their's are pre-installed.
I once bought a $495 Zero-60 preforated 2-piece suit. I crashed in this, and got up and walked away. Albeit a bit bruised, but I walked away. Would a $1200 Alpinestar suit have saved me better? Possibly. The biggest loss in a less expensive to is the ability to survive multiple events / accidents. The $1200 Alpinestars would have probably been okay to wear again right after the accident. The $495 Zero-60 Suit had catastrophic failures in the stitching and panels, and thus was deemed unsafe to re-use.
I could go on more about what to look for in suits - if you want me to ?
I actually spoke to the guys at this place today. They return calls pronto, and are pretty upfront and honest about their stuff.
They can do a small margin of custom work, but something as simple as changing lettering can run you an extra $200 on the suit. So, we start getting up in prize. Other thing he mentioned, they are made in Pakistan, and even though they are do not have the most supple leather in the world - as long as it is drum dryed / dyed, it should be camparable to other suits. IN all honesty, it is not primarily the leather or hide that saves you completely - it is the way it is assembled, the way it is stitched, etc.
Their leather is apparently 1.3 mm, not a big deal as most leather suits are 1.4 mm in their thickest parts. One impressive thing they do is they sew their elbow CE armour into place and velcro the shoulder padding / armour. That is the mark of usually more expensive suits. If the report from Hullspeed is favourable, I will buy one of these suits - before they start charging what they might be worth. Think about this - it costs an $35 just to get a patch sewn on your suit. Their's are pre-installed.
I once bought a $495 Zero-60 preforated 2-piece suit. I crashed in this, and got up and walked away. Albeit a bit bruised, but I walked away. Would a $1200 Alpinestar suit have saved me better? Possibly. The biggest loss in a less expensive to is the ability to survive multiple events / accidents. The $1200 Alpinestars would have probably been okay to wear again right after the accident. The $495 Zero-60 Suit had catastrophic failures in the stitching and panels, and thus was deemed unsafe to re-use.
I could go on more about what to look for in suits - if you want me to ?
Leather for the most part will do its job vs asphalt. It comes down to Armour built it and the stitching on the suit. My AXO has double and triple stitching with Italian leather, not saying this E-Bay suit is bad, but you get what you pay for! Save on that CF Bling and buy a good leather suit. When it comes to my skin, I dont cut corners looking for a deal! I want something that is reputable and I know will help decrease my injuries!
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You can get some nice deals on PSI (custom), and Clover (off the rack) in the lower mainland.
you're only part right there. You cannot get a good deal on clover here, they are overpriced. And I know first hand how much they are over-charging for their leathers.
I am referring to the importer who brings them in for canada.
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How do you know if they will "work out" until you hit the ground?
I say go with the best you can afford. that goes with any safety gear.
BTW: I have some Alpinestars for sale here in the classifieds and on eBay.
eddie
lol you're killing me! "and btw, I have some for sale"
I've already got one of the best suits around, a *perfectly* fitting old-school Nankai (that I can't quite fit a back plate in). I did have a 4th gear lowside in it years ago, and goddamn it held up. I still can't find any scratch marks on it!
yeah, I'll report back on them, I'm really interested in examining their stitching etc.. "you get what you pay for" is not something anyone should ever follow blindly. Kinda like the Nike runner syndrome, bad for your feet.
Anyways, this suit could turn out to be trash, it could turn out to be a goldmine. I think what it really comes down to is how savvy these owners are in specifying the suits construction.
I guess we'll see! I should borrow a digicam and take some pics
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Hullspeed, digital pictures will be great! As most of us are indicating, we are particularly interested in the construction of the suit. It is one this to claim a suit has double, triple or whatever layering, but it depends on how it was all stitched together.
Is the Stitching exposed? What is the hemming of the leather like? And btw - I do not have any suits to sell... but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn..
thats not always true some start up companies sell there stuff for next to nothing just to get their name out and they have high quality, while sometimes higher end companies put out crap because they know that people will buy them, this could just be a deal.
Or they could be like Joe Rocket that sold shit quality suits at dirt cheap prices to get their name out and then started to make decent suits after they were established. When JR fisrt came out, there is no way that I would have worn one. I saw so many seams blow out after very light crashes.
But the question is, do you want to be the guinea pig? Or would you like to have some testimonials from people who have crashed on the thing?
It is one thing to buy cheap fiberglass and find out that it didn’t hold up like sharkskinz in a crash, it is something else to buy some no-name leathers (because they were cheap and have kewl graphics) and then end up in the ER getting skin graphs.
I am pimping my Alpinestars (auction ends today ) because I bought the wrong size when I was replacing my Vansons. My next leathers will be equal quality to those brands.
Or they could be like Joe Rocket that sold shit quality suits at dirt cheap prices to get their name out and then started to make decent suits after they were established. When JR fisrt came out, there is no way that I would have worn one. I saw so many seams blow out after very light crashes.
eddie
You make some real great points Eddie. Funnily enough, from what I have seen and heard of JR suits is that their stitches / joints still fail from abrasion. I am still not inclined to go with a JR because of this.
Indeed, it is a risk to be the Guinea pig so to speak, but risk is always around us.
And going back to the question of quality and cost, etc. When I crashed, I was in a Zero-60 suit with Z Custom Carbon gloves on. IMHO, the gloves failed woefully and I was left with a nice chunk of my palm torn out.
I have a Paki made suit = RST
It looks good from afar...
but up close is junk, unsuitable for the track & just OK for the street
thin leather, awkward panels, just OK stitching, & cheap imitaion zippers that say YKK but are not
anyone have these leathers?
) because I bought the wrong size when I was replacing my Vansons. My next leathers will be equal quality to those brands.
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