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Old 03-12-2006, 02:53 AM
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"The results of the 65th Daytona 200 by Honda have been protested by the Yamaha factory team, according to AMA Pro Racing Series Manager for Road Racing Ron Barrick.

Barrick mentioned the protest during a short press conference held in the Daytona media center at approximately 8:00 p.m. local time. The press conference was called so AMA Pro Racing could issue a statement on its use of a pace car during the Daytona 200 and answer questions from the media.

In that statement, AMA Pro Racing said "pace car procedures were not able to be fully implemented..."

Barrick would not go into the specifics of Yamaha's protest, but AMA Pro Racing's statement said the outcome of the race was not affected by the use of the pace car.

After the race, some riders expressed to reporters that they felt their results were negatively affected by AMA Pro Racing not follwing proper pace car procedures.

AMA Pro road racing only uses a pace car at Daytona International Speedway during the Daytona 200.


UPDATE: At approximately 8:50 p.m. local time, it was announced in the media center that all three of Yamaha's protests had been denied and found without merit based on video evidence, and the results of the 65th Daytona 200 by Honda were declared "official." "






As usual the AMA is both Judge and Jury. How is it that these guys are still doing stunts like this? Haven't they learned how to do this roadracing thing yet?





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Old 03-12-2006, 09:17 AM
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Barrick has to win the Biggest Bullshitter award for 2006.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2006/Mar/060311lst5.htm


What a crock of double-talking crap! My god, some of this stuff wouldn't be acceptable at a club race, much less the biggest event on the national calendar.

Q As race director, why do you drive the pace car? Why don't you have someone else do that?

A I guess because I've got the most experience at doing that, and know the procedures without having to think about them.


That's classic!

Q In the riders' meeting Wednesday, you said there would be a spotter in the car that would direct riders whether to pass the car or not. Was there a reason why there wasn't a spotter in the car today?

A Just basically we were short on personnel.


Is he serious? What do they have, 3 people running that show?

Q And is there no mechanism for, then, changing [the way the bikes were positioned]? Because effectively, it meant that Duhamel and Bostrom were a lap down.

A Well, they weren't actually a lap down. All those bikes were still on the lead lap.


Yeah, man, it's not like they were a lap down. They were like a whole 5 seconds in front of the leader. All they would have to do is make up about 1:35 on Zemke, and they'd be right back where they should have been in the first place!

Idiot.

Q And you didn't want to wave everyone past to set the field straight?

A ... of course, when they do that, then they're going to want to run at speed, catching back up, so then you are no longer controlling them with speed.


Ever hear of a full-course yellow, you stupid phuck???

And then there's this gem...

...I can understand that [Miguel] wouldn't have been happy with the situation, because yeah, he felt that the pace car was a free ticket to get back in the race again after being 30-some seconds back, I think, from the leader, when the pace car came out...

No, Ron. The pace car is a free ticket for EVERYONE to get back in the race. That's racing. But in this case, you let Hayes and DiSalvo have that free ticket while denying it for Bostrom and Miguel. How is that fair? How can you be certain that they wouldn't have been able to catch Zemke? You can tell us what would, or wouldn't have happened in a parallel universe, but you can't even figure out what's going on in the present??? Shut the f*** up and just admit that you guys screwed up royally. Just like always!
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Old 03-13-2006, 01:15 AM
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Scott, you sized it up pretty well.
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Old 03-13-2006, 02:34 PM
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AMA is run by idiots...PERIOD!! Barrick is a fool and should be ousted. I was there and when the pace car came out I started packing my stuff to leave. Everyone in the stands was pissed and bitching. Daytona is not Daytona without the superbikes and I won't waste anymore time going there to watch it. The AMA tried to screw up the Superbike race with a delay due to oil in the chicane even then one of the riders went down on the warm up lap after it was suppose to be clear there.


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Old 03-13-2006, 05:08 PM
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Damn! I can't believe the guy is suppossed to be a higher-up and all he can come up with is that stupid crap. What a complete idiot. I was sitting there watching and immediatly said "why don't they red flag it to get everyone where they need to be" (but I guess I am missing all that experience that idiot has so that sort of quick decision is worthless) I'm starting to feel sorry for all AMA racers that have to put up with "Stupidity" running the show..
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:49 PM
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I can't wait to hear what the new "govern-by-committee" AMA group has to say this week as a follow-up.
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
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I can't wait to hear what the new "govern-by-committee" AMA group has to say this week as a follow-up.
They'll simple over-rule the results and award Buell 1-2-3.
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Barrick is either severly incompetent and didn't know what he was doing (in which case, I presume we'll see him as head of FEMA next), or there was something fishy going on.
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:55 PM
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Haha.... I stoped watching the 200 ever since it went to 600cc engines. The AMA are asses for that change in the first place. They should have made mandatory minimum of tire changes for Superbikes in the first place. I see they are still making a dumb situation even worst. What bunch of shitheads.....
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Old 03-13-2006, 09:19 PM
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My theory is that Barrick did not know that he had picked up the wrong Honda rider. He was told that the leader was heading his way, then when he saw the Red bike (Miguel) he assumed that that was the leader. Now why no one corrected him is beyond me. Either no one else from Race control was paying attention... OR they had no communications in place in the pace car.
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Old 03-13-2006, 09:46 PM
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OR they had no communications in place in the pace car.
From the transcript of the interview, he was in communication, and knew he was not in front of the leader:

Q Were you in communication while you were out there?
A With race control.


Q And did they tell you that you weren't in front of the lead rider?
A Yeah, I was aware of that at that stage.
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