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post #181 of 196 (permalink) Old 09-28-2015, 04:28 PM
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I don't remember Dani winning a straight fight before... was impressive!

As much as I am rooting for Rossi, I do believe that the fastest guy should be champ... and there is no doubt that Lorenzo is the fastest guy in the paddock right now. I am more impressed that he is putting incredible pressure on Marquez to match his pace and forcing him into mistakes as a result.

MM is showing major cracks in the armory and turns out he is mortal after all... once the riders don't fear you as much, it is going to be a tough season every year to win a championship... just ask Rossi how hard it has been for him once the aura broke. Weren't there a few who christened him the GOAT last year.... a little premature you think!

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I don't remember Dani winning a straight fight before... was impressive!

As much as I am rooting for Rossi, I do believe that the fastest guy should be champ... and there is no doubt that Lorenzo is the fastest guy in the paddock right now. I am more impressed that he is putting incredible pressure on Marquez to match his pace and forcing him into mistakes as a result.

MM is showing major cracks in the armory and turns out he is mortal after all... once the riders don't fear you as much, it is going to be a tough season every year to win a championship... just ask Rossi how hard it has been for him once the aura broke. Weren't there a few who christened him the GOAT last year.... a little premature you think!
It remains to be seen how each of them will adapt to the Michelins next year, not to mention the bike manufacturers and how their bikes are tailored to these new tires. Marquez might find himself dominating again, or settling for fourths or crashes because he can't feel the front.

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That had to be the best ride of his MotoGP career.
Definitely a great race for Pedrosa but since he's struggled with so many physical issues over the years, many forget that he's actually won 26 MotoGP races and is a three time Championship runner-up. Back in 2012 he won 7 races and compiled 15 podium finishes only to lose the title to Jorge 350 -332 who had one less win but more 2nd place finishes.

When the Bot was on he could beat anyone, typically clearing out from the start as he didn't like contact. Either bad luck, injuries or someone being better THAT year, be it a Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner and of course Marquez have left him the forgotten man in the eyes of many.

The arm pump issues that have plagued him for at least three years and had him seriously facing early retirement seem to have been fix by this last surgical procedure.

Until recently, his riding style, like Lorenzo's has been exclusively "classic 250" with an emphasis on precision, smoothness and high corner speeds whereas nowadays, he has definitely adapted his style on the Honda and has demonstrated a willingness to adopt a looser approach like that of Marquez, allowing the front and rear tires to squirm and weave out of line under braking which he did to great success on Sunday...


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Great race between Pedrobot and Rossi. Damned Honda seems to have found even more speed on the straight again, and is matching the Yamaha on drive from the corner, whereas until recently, the Yamaha was nearly as quick as the Honda on the straight and consistently out-driving the Hondas from the turns.

Rossi tried everything possible to pass, but was just not quite quick enough to match a really strong Dani.

Lolly just sublime again....just as I predicted.....he's on the steamroller to win the championship (much as I would love Rossi to take it).

Marky - yet ANOTHER unforced error....WOW, this is certainly a tough year for the likable youngster. I hope he comes back next year and can challenge Rossi and Lorenzo to the end, instead of crashing so consistently with errors. Rossi now has 43% more points than Marky.....pretty much unbelievable.

The glow has tarnished just a little for him now. It remains to be seen how if affects him mentally.

Hopefully, he doesn't become another Stoner if he faces another tough season next year....

And...this type of sportsmanship below is why Rossi is by far the most loved and admired racer we've ever seen...

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Well, I got the top 4 riders correct, with just Rossi and Pedrobot swapped around.

So now, Rossi looks like he has a real, strong, strong chance of hanging onto the Championship from Lorenzo.

For the first time, Lorenzo cannot say that it doesn't matter what Rossi does, as long as Lorenzo wins the remaining races, because now Lorenzo needs Rossi to finish worse than 2nd place at any one race (while Lorenzo must win all three races left)

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Well, I got the top 4 riders correct, with just Rossi and Pedrobot swapped around.

So now, Rossi looks like he has a real, strong, strong chance of hanging onto the Championship from Lorenzo.

For the first time, Lorenzo cannot say that it doesn't matter what Rossi does, as long as Lorenzo wins the remaining races, because now Lorenzo needs Rossi to finish worse than 2nd place at any one race (while Lorenzo must win all three races left)
And I am not so sure that he can win all 3 races either. Dani is the in form rider and MM may be fully fit and riding on the ragged edge by Valencia also. That said, he doesn't NEED to win the remaining 3 either. If 1-2 riders land inbetween him and Rossi he will still have a shot. Rossi on the other hand needs to get three 2nds to seal it.

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Rossi doesn't go well at Valencia. Never has. Valencia will likely be won by Jorge.




Philip Island is Rossi's best bet to extend the lead further. The other 2 races I think Jorge will have the advantage.

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maybe Rossi will fall off...

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Rossi has been doing a lot of whining about MM and the finish at PI…I think this weeks race will have the same finishing order.
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In addition to his recent efforts to get inside MM's head with his huge, conspiracy theory diatribes with the media today and yesterday, maybe Rossi is also trying to somehow psyche himself up for the massive uphill challenge he faces this weekend. There's no doubt in my mind that what happens this weekend will basically decide the championship because it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that Rossi will surrender a ton of points at Valencia which is probably his worst track. Not only does he have to contend with the tremendous pressure of what is undoubtedly his last shot at another title, Sepang is also the scene where, at no fault of his own whatsoever, he ran over his close friend and protege, Marco Simoncelli.

Still, Rossi has won a bunch of races here and finished the race in 2nd place ahead of Lorenzo last year so I think he'll need to do the same tomorrow if he going to take the crown.


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Lolly falls off in the race. Pity, but I think he's gonna cave under the pressure.

Marky wins, Danny second, Rossi third...and wins the Championship before they get to Valencia.

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Heck of a lap by Pedrosa. Incredible.

Jorge thought he was on the front row and when to go park his bike where they celebrate the front row and the marshall told him he couldn't go because Rossi pipped him for the spot. It was embarrassing. hahahahaha The worst part was that he shut off his bike and tried to coast in and couldn't get it restarted.

Drama filled weekend!

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Once a shitbag, always a shitbag! At the same track he killed his friend. I can't wait for the "racing incident" excuses.
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The young man screwed this race and championship up, unfortunately.

Never before have we seen someone who is NOT racing for the championship and NOT battling for the lead in the race, be so aggressive towards someone who IS battling for the championship.

I do think that Rossi is partly to blame here by raising the youngster's emotions with his comments, and so has a large part of the blame here, but the way that Marquez acted on track was pretty much unique in this situation. Marquez crashing seemed inevitable.....6th time this season, for riding as stupidly as he did. He did not need the close-encounter battle, with his Honda's superior speed on the straights, a simple tuck in and pass on the straight was always the easier option and he could have been off and battling with Lorenzo and then Pedrosa....but he very clearly decided to take the battle to Rossi. He lost the battle but unfortunately won the war.

Rossi brought this almost predictable result into contention with his mind games, and has effectively lost the championship as a result, disappointing millions of fans (and almost the entire stadium at the race) in the process.

A very unfortunate result for everyone - except Lorenzo.
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The young man screwed this race and championship up, unfortunately.

Never before have we seen someone who is NOT racing for the championship and NOT battling for the lead in the race, be so aggressive towards someone who IS battling for the championship.



A very unfortunate result for everyone - except Lorenzo.


This about sums it up! What was in this for Marco other than trying to take out Rossi or ruin the championship run, seems malicious but i am pro Rossi


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