alternative to drilling holes in carbon parts??

[AVR89]

I'm looking for an alternative to drilling holes in my carbon intake ( to mount overflow bottle) and airbox ( for mounting electronics).

So I'm thinking maybe some sort of plastic piece/tab with loops/holes to run zippties through, with an adhesive side........

[wibbly]

you can buy those in the electrical department at lowes/home depot etc... the ones made by thomas and betts are the gooders.

[sbk_drew]

What if you do need to drill a hole though? Is it best to use a step drill or maybe a dremel?

[hawkdriver]

This is what was being used on the V22 Osprey when I left the program. The engineers called them click studs and click tabs, and the most important thing to remember when dealing with any composites is going to be surface prep. With these kits you are basically gluing a bolt onto your surface, it seems like something mechanical would be stronger but these things will not come off if you do it right.

This link has instructions and a better view of how they work. He uses the click studs to avoid having to drill into his firewall.
http://n74418.home.att.net/
Where to buy
CLICK BOND STUD KITS from Aircraft Spruce

[RAZR51]

Those look to be very handy.....thanks.

[killa]

A strong velcro like 3M Dual Lock holds components very nicely. Easy removal.

[AVR89]

Originally Posted by hawkdriver

This is what was being used on the V22 Osprey when I left the program. The engineers called them click studs and click tabs, and the most important thing to remember when dealing with any composites is going to be surface prep. With these kits you are basically gluing a bolt onto your surface, it seems like something mechanical would be stronger but these things will not come off if you do it right.

This link has instructions and a better view of how they work. He uses the click studs to avoid having to drill into his firewall.
N74418 HID Cowl Light
Where to buy
CLICK BOND STUD KITS from Aircraft Spruce

I think I'm missing how this works. It's just a stud? So how would I connect somethiing to it?
Overflow bottle to snorkel for example...

[hawkdriver]

Originally Posted by AVR89

I think I'm missing how this works. It's just a stud? So how would I connect somethiing to it?
Overflow bottle to snorkel for example...

It's basically a bolt with a flat head that is encased in fiberglass or resin, it will come with a nylon or stainless steel nut. Your over flow bottle will need to have a mounting hole in it and you would then put the bolt/stud through the mounting hole and secure it with the supplied nut. Because you are mounting to carbon you will want to use the fiberglass stainless stud to prevent dissimilar metal contact and reduce the chances of getting any corrosion.
picture of the stud to get a better idea of how it works

I also found this while looking at another supply shop. It's a stand off mount with a 360 degree swivel on the end that you would use with a tie wrap. So you could go with one of these and put a tie wrap around the neck of your overflow bottle.

This place has more pictures and mounting options for all composites.
frame set

[mrgrn]

just drill the carbon and use a nut with nyloc and a rubber washer

fast sharp bit even pressure

[Hellraizer547]

I would use a special adhesive glue, but that will prove to be permanent. About the overflow, is it ok to have the overflow that high on the bike? If so, then I will copy your idea and mount mine up that high. Maybe make a carbon fiber resevior.

Sergio