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Old 06-09-2009, 05:41 PM
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Bike has been running a little sick lately. Pulled the air box and throttle bodies to have a looksy.
Air filters are nasty. Not sure what color they were 8 years ago, but my gut is telling me they weren't brown and black. And the front intake valves are looking grimy. I would have thought both front and rear valves would look close to the same, but this isn't the case. Rear valves are squeaky clean.
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The front spark plug is ashen/ clean looking, while the rear plug is wet and sooty.

I need to also check the valves for clearances, etc, and go through the entire bike this season. I am about to get the bike Dynoed, so I am looking forward to that.
And nobody has addressed the issue of differences, and back to front and front to back confuses the issue even more..
We know that all front to back twins run a bit different, heat and cool different and also breathe differently.
I can;t find it right now but there is somewhere a huge technical article about airbox resonance and the problems of V twins, how one cylinder sucks the air of the other and flow is hardly equalized.
Don't stock air filters have differences front and back, a restrictor on one of them? If you can reverse them you can make a small problem even bigger. Neither BMC or K&Ns have this, only Honda does.
Some of the aftermarket airboxes have larger volume to help resonate better at higher rpm, so if you are running a rev limiter you may be losing hp with one.
Valve clearance can make a small difference but rpm range makes even more. If one of you is running between 4-7k 90% and the other is at 5-9k rpm the plug and valve findings may be different.
Then what you see in the plug may be different than what you see in the manifold. A richer cylinder could be having less or more back surge. I would think the rear tends to run a bit hotter at times and hotter cylinders feel richer than cooler cylinders.
When I first got my bike the rear plug was borderline fouling, I had ordered a pair from a local part store but couldn't wait 2 days. I took them both out and cleaned them as well as I could (burning after chemical cleaning helps) and switched them front to back. Haven't had a problem since and still have the two new plugs.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:40 AM
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My intakes look like the pics at 17.5k this spring, when i pulled it out winter storage and did some maintenence, tstat,pair mod, and tires.
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