man and to think ,people use to think the world was flat!!! sounds like the fear of the unknown to me! most peeps that add the juice make the simple mistake of never tuning the bike properly,give it a shot,just take slow steps,and dont rush!the us put a probe on mars i think juice can be put on an rc51 with good results,just dont get too greedy!
The only things that scare me are old age and marriage. I'm simply advising him not to strap a bottle on the thing and go out for a blast however I do have a sick sense of humor and will glady stand there, camera in hand if he elects to do it anyway. There has not been enough time/trials invested in this particular application that I'm aware of to advise someone to try it. Without proven, successful tuning data the results may be-------Boom.
There is a group of people that would argue that till the end. They made a few interesting points about the world still being flat as opposed to round. They claim all the photos from space are doctored to make the earth look round. Its a big government conspiricy. They claim since so few have actually witnessed earth from space its easy to keep the myth the earth is round
if the earth is flat then that mean there is no Hallow earth theory and there are not aliens that live inside of the earth.
I just cant believe that. the earth has to be round. the passing of seismic waves shows that the earth cannot be flat.
Nor be hallow .
I rode my friends Borguet chopper with nitrous on it, 1850cc's. it was quit an experiance. i dont think i would really care for it on a sportbike. i know that he has broken 3 belts using the nitrous in the 6 months he has had it.
you guys are totally missing my point in no way do i expect to be able to keep up with the 1000's nor do i have plans to drag it any more than for fun. im going to give it a shot. im not really concerned about spare parts as i work at a dealer. ill start with a 25 jet or so and gradually raise them up. #25 not 25 hp. im just doing it for fun and to be a little different.
i have been running a 75 wet in my RC for the last year and never had a problem. the motor has 39k on it and still running very good. if you can get the fuel right then you should not have a problem with it. the NOS is going off the bike next week putting a turbo kit on it still not done with the pipes but should have it running in the next 3-4 weeks.
hey 600 killer you wanna get together sometime? im in maryland and would be willing to take a ride and check out your setup. im gonna run a dry shot with fuel enrichment. shoot me a message
I know alittle about nitrous. If you have a wet shot set up with a fuel programmer then do it. I would NOT just put a dry fogger on it. Do it right.....and I hope everything goes well.
I wanted to do it....but I changed my mind.....after my friend (who built and raced drag bikes with N20 and had 1 turbo app) told me not to.
If all else fails....I would like to use my life line and call LDH or Robert......just my
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i have been running a 75 wet in my RC for the last year and never had a problem. the motor has 39k on it and still running very good. if you can get the fuel right then you should not have a problem with it. the NOS is going off the bike next week putting a turbo kit on it still not done with the pipes but should have it running in the next 3-4 weeks.
dam son!!!!!!! that pretty much silenced the critics!hahahahahahahahahah! love it when that happens!
gotta ask,have you dyno'd the bike with it on there? what kind of gains does it make?what rpm do you start the spray? did you do the soft rev mod?
A while ago, I called up the Power Commander people
with the idea of a dry shot of nitrous for my RC51.
I asked them if they had an electrical input for
nitrous activation, where they would go full rich
and back off the timing X degrees, where X was
default say 10 and programmable.
They said they had never, ever been asked for
such a thing.
As for a dry nitrous shot being a bad thing
that will certainly kill your bike and causes
pattern baldness, click on:
i have been running a 75 wet in my RC for the last year and never had a problem. the motor has 39k on it and still running very good. if you can get the fuel right then you should not have a problem with it. the NOS is going off the bike next week putting a turbo kit on it still not done with the pipes but should have it running in the next 3-4 weeks.
so you have been running this for a year huh
funny how might you explain this/
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Originally Posted by 600killer-in october of 2005
i have seem 176 on my RC
this was in the Top Speed thread where I sarcastically stated my Bike ran 205 and you asked:
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Originally Posted by 600killer
sp2pilot what gear are you running on the bike
So post up some pics of this wet 75 you are running. I call bullshit and bullshit on your "TURBO" set up as well. I searched your responses and a guy asking if a sp2 shock will fit his sp1, or asking how to make passanger pegs work...Well this is surely not the person capable of setting up a Nitrous bike, let alone have anything to do with a Turbo set up.
you guys arent understanding what the mps fuel controller does. its not a pc it does go into full rich mode so it is almost like a wet shot except there is the posibility of a nitrous backfire but i never had one on my 600. i had the same kinda naysayers when i put it on my 600 but i dont take it to heart cause i like to find out by trial and error because if you never try anything different we will all be riding the same bike. so ill let you know and post some numbers. if i saw 150 on the dyno i would be very happy. but im not expecting that much.
you guys arent understanding what the mps fuel controller does. its not a pc it does go into full rich mode so it is almost like a wet shot except there is the posibility of a nitrous backfire but i never had one on my 600. i had the same kinda naysayers when i put it on my 600 but i dont take it to heart cause i like to find out by trial and error because if you never try anything different we will all be riding the same bike. so ill let you know and post some numbers. if i saw 150 on the dyno i would be very happy. but im not expecting that much.
Do yo have any pics of your NOS setup. Many folks in here I'm certain would like to see it for installation purposes. Please post and since many folks are not up to speed on NOS and it's relationship to the RC, we can learn from you.
Ok, before to much BS gets thrown around in this thread let me clear the air about some of the nitrous confusion i've seen in this thread.
1. With a wet shot set up you DO NOT have to have a fuel enrichment device. Reason is that the nitrous and fuel are already mixed before being shot through the fogger nozzle. If you go to lean with a wet set up that means you either are a complete idiot, or a completely greedy idiot. To make sure you don't end up in the latter catagory its always prudent to tune your power adders with a/f monitoring.
2. With a dry shot you DO need to worry about fuel enrichment. The reason is because the nitrous is introduced seperate of the fuel. To compensate for the added oxygen introduced via the intake runners the engine's injectors, or carb, will need add more fuel so the combustion chamber does not get to hot causeing a lean out.
3. With the MPS dry system one can only go as far as the injectors ability to provide fuel unless you are just out to push the engine to destruction. That's why one needs to tune on a dyno with a/f readings. You can go up in pill size only so far until the mixture becomes lean. The only way to compensate for that is to either put in larger injectors or bump up the fuel pressure. Even then its a balancing act because the more one bumps up fuel pressure the volume of fuel deminishes once you go past the fuel pumps optimum operating range.
4. Nitrous back fire is a misnomer. Nitrous isn't even flammable. Its an excelerator. The only thing that could be considered something close to a back fire is commonly found on carbed racers with out of tune carbs. The carbs will back fire with the nitrous nozzles right there which makes for a nice pop. I can't think of one single way you could get the so called n2o backfire on a fuel injected car unless you bent/ate an intake valve and the power stroke from that cylinder pushed the air/fuel into the intake, then the spark plug set off the chain reaction. All the years i've been around nitrous i have never seen a dry shot back fire. Not to say it doesn't happen, but i've never seen it.
5. Wet set ups are a whole different ball game. Common on the intake of the 302 mustang and mod motors is the blowing up of the intakes and valve trains. Reason is that most wet setups are not recommended for intake intorduction. In many of todays modern vehicles the intakes have intricate runners and valves that all contribute to "puddling" of the nitrous/fuel mixture(remember that's what a 'wet' setup is). When this puddling happens all it takes is a spark, flash point, freak incident to set off the explosion.
6. If you go to the drag strip you will inevitably see at least on balls to the wall racer blow his engine to holy hell. When you run a 'loose motor'(required for the massive amounts of nitrous and methane introduced during the run) these things happen. But remember, this is a faaaaaar cry from the stock setups we are talking about.
7. For a 1000cc engine you would not need to worry about timing retard on such a small shot of say 40....AS LONG AS you have the correct amount of fuel.
8. One problem with the MPS is there is no window switch or WOT switch. Just make sure you don't spray below 5K, after 9K, in between shifts, after you come off WOT.
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