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Old 04-13-2006, 10:45 PM
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Default Orange Clean safe to use on the chain?

I’ve seen plenty of suggestions for green cleaner but I have orange cleaner on my shelf. Figured they are both de-greasers / bio degradable… Just a different color and smell



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I’ve seen plenty of suggestions for green cleaner but I have orange cleaner on my shelf. Figured they are both de-greasers / bio degradable… Just a different color and smell



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I believe Orange Clean is Citric Acid based, which will do nothing to your chain except make it smell perty...........
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:31 PM
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or make me hungry for an orange!
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:46 PM
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just dont use greased lightning. it will do bad things. i used a orange based degreaser and it works well. and yes it does smell good when finished almost as good as the quick detail does
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Best thing to use cleaning a chain is simply WD-40. I to thought this was hog-wash but the guys I ride with all use it. I tried it some years ago on all my bikes and IT WORKS GREAT. I just warm the chain up with a quick spin round the block a few times,place on rear stand, at idle pop in 1st, load it up with WD-40 (make sure you have news paper under it), hold a brass wire brush on all sides (easily) a few seconds, wipe with rag a few times. After it is clean lube it good with WD-40 again and wipe off excess.

I hate all the lubby-dubby chain wax / cleaners. They just attract dirt and grime. When they get hot and cool a few times, it adds a god-awful slime on the chain.

I have 21000 miles on my RC animal and the chain looks like new. A buddy got 40000 miles out of a chain and sprockets on his VFR. It works.
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Best thing to use cleaning a chain is simply WD-40. I to thought this was hog-wash but the guys I ride with all use it. I tried it some years ago on all my bikes and IT WORKS GREAT. I just warm the chain up with a quick spin round the block a few times,place on rear stand, at idle pop in 1st, load it up with WD-40 (make sure you have news paper under it), hold a brass wire brush on all sides (easily) a few seconds, wipe with rag a few times. After it is clean lube it good with WD-40 again and wipe off excess.

I hate all the lubby-dubby chain wax / cleaners. They just attract dirt and grime. When they get hot and cool a few times, it adds a god-awful slime on the chain.

I have 21000 miles on my RC animal and the chain looks like new. A buddy got 40000 miles out of a chain and sprockets on his VFR. It works.
But.....they don't smell good...........
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Eat some apple pie, or corned beef and cabbage the night before. Get up in the morning, run around the block to stir it all up then go clean your chain and let some STINKERS rip............ You'll have something to sniff then..... It may not be pretty but it will keep your olfactory sences working OT.
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Old 04-14-2006, 03:19 AM
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Actually, WD-40 will penetrate beyond the o-rings, dissolve the petroleum based grease and ruin your chain over time. I will always recommend the tried and true method of taking a rag, dipping it in some motor oil and wiping the chain down thoroughly. Believe me, it works.

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Eat some apple pie, or corned beef and cabbage the night before. Get up in the morning, run around the block to stir it all up then go clean your chain and let some STINKERS rip............ You'll have something to sniff then..... It may not be pretty but it will keep your olfactory sences working OT.

I agree with the olfactory senses being triggered but as far as the smell not being pretty...come on EVERYONE LOVES THEIR OWN BRAND!!!





p.s. a pepperoni pizza with extra cheese will give the rich flavor that lingers in the garage for days...
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Actually, WD-40 will penetrate beyond the o-rings, dissolve the petroleum based grease and ruin your chain over time. I will always recommend the tried and true method of taking a rag, dipping it in some motor oil and wiping the chain down thoroughly. Believe me, it works.
Ive heard the same thing over the yrs but wouldnt kero do the same thing if did get behind the o rings?
And pretty much ALL factories recommend using kero so Im not too sure that is true. Ive never read a complaint about chain longevity by using WD40.
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Old 04-14-2006, 02:43 PM
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Sorry, I have to disagree. I have been using WD40 on chains for years now and never have had a problem. Each time I have the bike inspected the mechanic always compliments me on how clean the chain is. Last time I had tires mounted he asked me if I put a new chain on. NO..... it is the same one for 21000 miles. I did have to adjust it a few times and I always make it a point to ask him to check it out. He says "it is fine, no need for replacing, what ever you use it is working". Just my

It works for me........ You do have to reapply after each ride 200-300 miles.
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The previous owner of my RC used WD-40 to clean the chain and Motul lube after rides. Looks like it’s in great shape. But another buddy mentioned that WD-40 is water-soluble. Wouldn’t this mean it would attract moisture?
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The previous owner of my RC used WD-40 to clean the chain and Motul lube after rides. Looks like it?s in great shape. But another buddy mentioned that WD-40 is water-soluble. Wouldn?t this mean it would attract moisture?
Water soluble means that it would mix/dissolve in water. Anything petroleum based is not water soluble; WD-40 is a petrolem based product and will displace water.
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The WD in WD-40 is Water Displacement...
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so is Water soluble good in this case?
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so is Water soluble good in this case?
if you like rust...
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Old 04-14-2006, 04:32 PM
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i clean it with kerosene, which seems to do a pretty good job. but i use that fancy shmancy chain wax and it attracts dirt like no other. especially here in florida where the whole damn state is made up of sand. i suppose i should try something new but WD-40 seems like it would evaporate off the chain before i made it to the end of the road. it would also be cool if the left side of my body/bike wasnt covered in motor oil, i always hear people complaining of "flinging." im a creature of habit, clearly resistant of change.
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DID recommends cleaning with kerosene. For years I've used a rag soaked with WD-40 to clean the chain. No problems.

For lubricant you should take a look at Bel-Ray Super Clean chain lube. The stuff dries to the touch and is non-sticky. I don't think it even has any oil in it. It's dries like a paint. You could throw sand at it and it wouldn't stick! I've used it for a year now and the chain remains clean.

I bought a kettenmax last year and it really, really cleans the chain with a dozen little brushes. I pump plain 'ol kerosene into the device and in 2 minutes the chain looks like it just came out of the box.
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does that bel ray fling off? that is my big beef with chain lubes. i use silkolene now its not bad but the pj1 i used before would fling all over the place
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:35 PM
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WD-40 and Motorcycle Chains
wBW Visitor "R.S." sent us some interesting information on the use of WD-40 on motorcycle chains:
"Saw your article on using WD-40 for chains and you asked for evidence of potential harm that WD-40 can do, so am attaching a photo. This photo is of a bearing surface from an airplane.

This is a ball and races in a sealed bearing that had been subjected to regular use of WD-40 for a year or two. The grease was NOT cleaned out before taking this photo - there simply is no grease and the brownish tint is really rust.

The ball had grooves (visible) and was shaped like a potato chip. The races had not evenly worn (see sectioned edge) and were rutted in spots, although neither shows too well.

We learned that WD-40 is really good for the light uses that it was intended for and that needs to be emphasized. However, it is largely a penetrant, which will do just that!

Once it penetrates into the sealed area, it dissolves the petroleum out of the grease, leaving the clay binders. What's left in the bearing is essentially dirt that cakes up, causing the balls to skid. Without the petroleum, the bearing will also rust.


From http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/

Also of interest: http://motorcyclistonline.com/howto/...le_chain_lube/
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