Giving new life to an old Ape. - Page 2 - Speedzilla Motorcycle Message Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 05-06-2012, 10:32 PM
Senior Member
 
RAZR51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Indy
Posts: 3,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLRSKUNK View Post
Too me fork oil is like motor oil. you need to change it as maintenance item. new seals and fluid ride it this summer and see what needs to replaced. basic items now can prevent major issues down the road.
something for you to think about.
+1
You won't get a good opinion on your current fork setup if the fork oil is old and nasty.
Nice bike
RAZR51 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
I have been riding it as weather and schedule allowed this fall, but it had a faint smell of gas each time I would start the bike. For a time I put it down to running rich at cold startup. There was never any liquid gasoline under the fairings. Recently it started smelling more strongly of gas, especially at the end of a ride. Last time I rode it (50 miles) and parked it in the garage it had a strong smell of gas, but again just taking off the fairings you couldn't find any liquid gas. Smell goes away so I assumed it was only leaking while under pressure (good).

Last night I finally raised the tanks and inspected the airbox, throttle body, and fuel pump area. What I suspected was the quick-disconnect fitting has O-rings, and these can go bad. Turns out it still had the original plastic QD but the O-rings were fine, although looking at the blistered fuel line it was obvious that liquid gasoline had been coming from the QD and sitting on the outside of the fuel line. After cleaning and hitting the key, it appears the QD bidy itself has a very small crack and allows a tiny amount of gas to seep out. Clean it off with contact cleaner, and you can see it wet slowly (like one of those WWII movie maps of the Germans spreading across Europe). So off today for a couple of feet of 1/4" fuel line, four new clamps, and a chrome-plated brass quick-disconnect from Colder products.


I also took off the airbox lid, seven freaking bolts, a tad overkill. The bike has a K&N, but it was just cleaned, not re-oiled. So wash it and spray on some of the red K&N filter oil and it should be fine. The dry sump oil system routes blowby oil into the airbox, if you over fill or run high revs oil can sit in the airbox until it drains out. Inspecting that tonight there was just a small amount of oil, but the drain tube wasn't connected from under the airbox. This probably explains why that side of the engine gets messy. So 3ft of plastic hose routed out and it should all be good.

The joys of buying a cheap bike with lots of miles.

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #23 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
I've also stripped off most of the graphics except the small stickers on the fairing. My plan is to buff everything again and repaint the lower belly pan silver (it is fairly beat up). I found some large red aprilia outline decals to replace the silver solid letters on the belly.

I've also just got an Evoluzione tail tidy to put on. I considered the integrated LED tailight/turnsignals but I am just going to keep thr stock signals for now. carbon fiber dash cover on its way too.

This isn't my bike but it should look similar when I get done.
Attached Images
     

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
 
post #24 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 08:27 PM
swollen member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 643
she's real pretty, amazing what a little elbow grease and polish can do. Plus how many of them do you see around?

Is the riding position significantly more comfy than the duc?
boom boom is offline  
post #25 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Riding position is much more comfortable, mainly in legroom. The Aprilia is also physically a large bike for a sportbike, so it fits me pretty well. My commute is an hour each way, no problem at all on the Aprilia. There are some days where I have to travel around town during the day, I've done a few 200 mile days on the Aprilia without discomfort.

The 851 has a riding position where you sit "in" the bike, probably as uncomfortable a riding position as I have ever experienced. If I ride it a couple of days in a row to work I can feel it in my old knees. It's probably what will motivate me to eventually sell the bike after owning it for so long.

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #26 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-31-2012, 06:03 AM
swollen member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 643
The more i look at it the more i want to look at it...right now on my rotating pics on my screen saver along with the desmo, honda NR, SS, 85 gixxer and 999.
boom boom is offline  
post #27 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-31-2012, 02:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,632
Very nice!

99 VTR1000F Firestorm, a.k.a. The Carbon Express
mikstr is offline  
post #28 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-02-2012, 02:30 AM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Worked a little bit on the bike tonight. After getting some 1/4" fuel line at a local auto parts store, I bought the Oetiker clamps and pliers from McMaster-Carr. We use these guys all the time at work and I cannot recommend them enough. Bought the stuff yesterday morning online, it arrived today, a whopping $6 shipping charges.

Also got Colder Products (CPC) chrome-plated brass quick-disconnect with built-in check valves. The stock plastic one has a hairkine crack that allows it to be continuously wet with gas (although not enough to let it drip). No valve in the stock one either, so when you disconnect it, the entire tank drains out. I wonder how many guys have been caught out by that?

Anyway, part numbers (McMaster) were the following:
5478K419 (Male QD w/valve) $11.51
5478K229 (Female QD w/valve) $17.14
6541K69 (Oetiker pliers) $29.85
5254K73 (20mm clamps for oil change) $10.61 for 25
5254K52 (12.7mm clamps for fuel lines) $8.93 for 25

The downside of haveing the valves is that if I ever do have to drain a tank again, I have to remove a clamp from the throttle body, the upside is I can remove the tank without having to drain it.

Pictures are:
1) McMaster parts
2) Old fuel line crusted with gasoline varnish (it used to be white)
3) Draining the tank which took forever as it dribbled out of the return line
4) My new hose and fittings (I just cut the hose to length once the old stuff was off and tank drained)
5) Everything installed and ready to pressure test. No leaks so it appears!
Attached Images
     

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #29 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-02-2012, 02:39 AM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Look at the undersaide of the tank, it was covered in this crappy foam that was disintegrating. Not sure if it was to prevent sound or heat or what, but after 12 years it was pretty worthless. Peeled all that old stuff off and vacuumed all the bits of foam from the engine. Bought some adhesive-backed heat insulation which looks just like what my Ducati had stock.

Thermo-Tec 13575 12" X 24" Adhesive Backed Heat Barrier : Amazon.com : Automotive Thermo-Tec 13575 12" X 24" Adhesive Backed Heat Barrier : Amazon.com : Automotive

I didn't take a picture when I was done, I was in too much of a hurry to get some gas in the bike and see if I knew how to use the clamp pliers.

I also installed a drain tube on the right side of the bike to drain the airbox of oil, should mean less oil on the top of the engine. It only takes a tablespoon to really make a mess.

Supposed to be low 40's in the morning, I'm debating whether to ride the 50 miles to work or not. Not many days left this year to ride.
Attached Images
   

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #30 of 39 (permalink) Old 01-01-2013, 03:29 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Last ride a couple of weeks ago resulted in a small coolant leak, and I have a persistent oil leak on the left (oil tank) side.

Last night I finally took the fairings off and saw the coolant leak appeared to be coming from the hose/thermostat junction. Clamp did not appear loose but I replaced it anyway.

I had had enough of the oil leak making a mess and drained the oil, and took off the dry sump tank. Source of the leak became apparent, PO had left out one bolt on the head behind the tank. Three screws should hold the tank on, only two were in place. M6 stainless screw and nut and it is as it should be firmly attached to the bike.

Having my old destroyed 851 engine proved handy, one case bolt later and a few minutes with contact cleaner <hopefully> the oil leak is solved.

The oil filter is behind a cover with a thin O-ring that seems barely up to the job, it is also possible it had a small leak from there too. Sourced some slightly fatter O-rings that are pennies each (instead of $9 from Aprilia) and it appears to work perfectly with good squeeze in the joint.

Next day it will be warm enough is Saturday before I can test it to see if I cured its incontinence.

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #31 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-17-2013, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Been riding the bike as time and weather allows. Did two round trip commutes last week on a single tank of gas. Could do 200 miles on a tank if you just ride it like you drive a car. The tripmeter is at 190 miles after 4.641 gallons of fuel. Low fuel light came on at 181 miles.

Tires are shot, new ones tomorrow.

Knock on wood, bike runs better than when I bought it. Still have to repaint the fairing lower and change the oil in the forks. Having too much fun riding though
Attached Images
 

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #32 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-17-2013, 07:38 PM
Street and Track Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Minnesooda
Posts: 3,888
Very cool, would love a Tuono of any vintage...

CCS #33
CRA #533
CQC Motorsports
2011 CCS Midwest Rookies Cup GTO #1
2014 CRA Formula 40 #2
2015 CRA Nov Unlimited SS #1
2015 CRA Nov Unlimited Superbike #1
2015 CRA Nov Unlimited GP #1

2008 CBR 1000rr (Race)
2012 Multistrada 1200 (Street Ride)
mattmansell is offline  
post #33 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-19-2013, 05:23 PM
Member (Large)
 
b.miller123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Kingston, WA
Posts: 2,533
Neat project. I always liked the Mille's

For the fuel disconnect: The bike is carbed and just has a hose at the bottom of the tank going to the carb? No fuel pump or petcock?

Anyways, if you want an easy way to drain the tank without unhooking any lines, just get another length of hose and put a quick disconnect fitting on it (whatever the throttle body side has, male or female).
Then use that hose any time you need to drain your gas.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
b.miller123 is offline  
post #34 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-19-2013, 05:35 PM
And Stateside again...
 
TLRSKUNK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hopkins, MN
Posts: 2,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by b.miller123 View Post
Neat project. I always liked the Mille's

For the fuel disconnect: The bike is carbed and just has a hose at the bottom of the tank going to the carb? No fuel pump or petcock?

Anyways, if you want an easy way to drain the tank without unhooking any lines, just get another length of hose and put a quick disconnect fitting on it (whatever the throttle body side has, male or female).
Then use that hose any time you need to drain your gas.
Pretty sure it's FI. (mine is but it's an 02 model)

I can't believe you pull 180 out of a tank. I only get 100 miles or so commuting. but I love the way it sounds at 11,000 in First and second.

and I cruise in 4th at 70 for the short highway parts of my commute. Rarely see 6th.
TLRSKUNK is offline  
post #35 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-19-2013, 07:49 PM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
New tires yesterday. Continental ContiTouring tires (sport touring).

This is my first set of new tires for the bike. Handling is much lighter, but the ride is worse, even going new vs very used Bridgestone BT-023.

Every litte bump can be felt, may have to back off the compression damping and spring preload just a bit.

BTW, bike is 2000.5 with steel tank, 20L capacity. A little more than the later resin tanks.

Yes, it is fuel-injected.

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #36 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-19-2013, 09:08 PM
And Stateside again...
 
TLRSKUNK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hopkins, MN
Posts: 2,537
Speaking of gas... my Light came on today. at 97 miles.

Also thanks for the Mcmaster QD part numbers. I will be buying some for mine.
TLRSKUNK is offline  
post #37 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-14-2014, 08:55 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2
Hi Guys,

Ken from BikeBuilds.net here. Beautiful Mille!

We were glad to add sburns2421's bike to our encyclopedia: Aprilia '00 Mille Build by sburns2421

Ken
KenBB is offline  
post #38 of 39 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 12:58 AM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
Bike is now for sale in the classified section of Speedzilla and on CL
2000.5 Aprilia RSV Mille

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
post #39 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-16-2016, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
Panigaliscious
 
sburns2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW MO
Posts: 9,103
SOLD. Hope the new owner enjoys it as much as I did.

1985 Honda VF1000R, 1990 Ducati 851, 2008 YZ450F
sburns2421 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Speedzilla Motorcycle Message Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome