PS. And PLEASE, don't assume you can speak for ANY Marine, son you have no clue......
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
So being part of a band of brothers somehow gives you the right to be Right ?
I disagree.
You surely represent SOME Marines mentality, if you ever served, and you definitely happy-clap along with a sinister segment of the American psyche, but your hard-core ideological base is as dangerous and twisted as that of the men in those interesting camouflage smocks that stood guard in a field in Malmedy not so long ago, fingers on the triggers of their StG-44's.
"Those who fight monsters should take care that they do not become monsters, and when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
--Nietzsche
I confess that I'm far more inclined to appreciate REAL American heroes, rather than the shallow, ignorant, propaganda-fed and hate filled echoes of William Calley and Tim McVeigh.
Real Heroes, like this most decorated Marine.
At least Calley apologized and revealed his heavy heart and remorse. Thumbs up to Smedley and hi medley of anti war actions. Comparing that to cockflea's proud desire to shoot women, dogs and villages...
gag, listening to you speak of the REALITIES of war, is like discussing quantum physics with my Dalmation..........
-Rocky-
PS. and froggie, it never fails to elicit a chuckle from ANY America in uniform when you use the words french, and combat in the same sentence.......
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
You speak for a narrow, dumb ass slice of military personnel. We know you self aggrandize yourself and appoint yourself grand poo-bar of pretty much everything you cant understand, but you're the minority asshole that gives the majority of a military a bad name. Tell us, you in that flick?
You cant even keep a decorated veteran, or foreign soldiers(brothers in arms fool)OUT of your petty minded party politics or lying slanders... some soldier...
Oil well, cockflea is cockflea... a real Jock(itch)
As with froggie, I take deragatory comments from you as high praise, when we agree on something, I worry. Once again mommies boy, got some docs to back up yer comments on military life, or just a lifetime of watching Hogans Heros?
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
gag, listening to you speak of the REALITIES of war, is like discussing quantum physics with my Dalmation..........
-Rocky-
PS. and froggie, it never fails to elicit a chuckle from ANY America in uniform when you use the words french, and combat in the same sentence.......
This is probably why you choppered off the roof of your embassy in Saigon, Rocky.
"All the gear, no idea."
Your arrogance reminds me of the Germans sneering at "das üntermensch" of the Russians, indeed, even of the arrogance of Napoleon as he and Ney planned their campaign over the "Slavic peasants".
You were surely one of those idiots who jeered at the first Mig 25 that fell into your hands when you found old WW II tube valves running its com and targeting gear, and wood and other "crude" components in the chassis and fuselage. As you sneered and high-fived, laughing at the "stupidity", "technological retardedness" and "cowardice" of your enemy, I'm sure you didn't hear the one alert engineer (probably a Democrat..) who realized that the Foxbat was resistant to EMP, and that it would fly through a nuclear storm as your F-14s were falling out of the air and punch a hole the size of Nebraska in your ignorant asses.
The only people the current crop of yank soldiers, poor shadows of the Big Red One and the Heroes of the Liberation of Europe and the Pacific, have managed to beat up on have been the Cuban advisor's to the Grenadians, and some Afghans trying to have a wedding.
You sure showed the routed Iraqi's that you could drop "smart" bombs and thermobaric weapons on them from far away in your safe, air-conditioned bunkers, though.
You da man.
Pull your head in, Rocky.
You've proved nothing over the last few years, except that the nazis were right. Propaganda and vicious, ignorant, brainwashed drones ARE a good thing for potential tyrants.
"Sic semper tyrannis"
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At least Calley apologized and revealed his heavy heart and remorse. Thumbs up to Smedley and hi medley of anti war actions. Comparing that to cockflea's proud desire to shoot women, dogs and villages...
True.
I know the background of men like Rocky, so I kind of understand their brainwashing and programming, and their difficulty in understanding reality, and as much as it pains me to admit it, I'd cover his back and fight alongside him without hesitation if faced with an anti-democratic foe determined to erase Western culture.
However, as this doesn't exist, that won't be happening for a while.
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True.
I know the background of men like Rocky, so I kind of understand their brainwashing and programming, and their difficulty in understanding reality, and as much as it pains me to admit it, I'd cover his back and fight alongside him without hesitation if faced with an anti-democratic foe determined to erase Western culture.
However, as this doesn't exist, that won't be happening for a while.
We democratically raised children are always faced with a foe like that however, that foe's size and ability should measure the response and commitment. Oh, and we should just start jailing the Bush/Cheney/neocon types before they unleash lies and violence on their own citizens and on the world and it's citizens.
Fvk every one of those anti Obama hillbillies holding signs saying "we're not armed this time" or "See what we'll do if you push us too far"... fvk them. If it were black men with those signs against Bush... Well, it'd be Black Panther/CivilWar2 time now woulnd't it? Black men, holding the exact same signs, would be domestic terrorists. They certainly wouldn't be referred to as freedom seekers and speakers by 'the base" now would they.?
It should be enough damage for one generation, damage caused by the hillbilly, religious twats of America because they championed a total, utter, un American loser all throughout his eight year gamut of failings. But they get to openly threaten the duly elected fixer upper with violence. Arrrrgh. Rush and friends want the agenda moved from fail to harm. Democrats prolly should take note, the right is moving from opposition to enemy.
Fvk every one of those anti Obama hillbillies holding signs saying "we're not armed this time" or "See what we'll do if you push us too far"... fvk them. If it were black men with those signs against Bush... Well, it'd be Black Panther/CivilWar2 time now woulnd't it? Black men, holding the exact same signs, would be domestic terrorists. They certainly wouldn't be referred to as freedom seekers and speakers by 'the base" now would they.?
It should be enough damage for one generation, damage caused by the hillbilly, religious twats of America because they championed a total, utter, un American loser all throughout his eight year gamut of failings. But they get to openly threaten the duly elected fixer upper with violence. Arrrrgh. Rush and friends want the agenda moved from fail to harm. Democrats prolly should take note, the right is moving from opposition to enemy.
Spot on there, Gog. If America crumbles it will crumble from within. Hate, bigotry, ingorrance, paranoia, and the right to bare arms could converge into a maelstrom of misdirected revolt. Obama with a crosshair on the "O". Did you see that poster? People are coming apart at the seams, it seems. If they kill Obama then take away their weapons, all their ****ing weapons. That would be just punishment. Maybe not the best thing for the country but I'm thinking maybe these NRA wing nuts are not level-headed enough to carry. It's looking more and more that way. What next? A fist fight during the State of the Union? Or just a lone shot from the balcony? It's getting ugly down here, shamefully ugly.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Spot on there, Gog. If America crumbles it will crumble from within. Hate, bigotry, ingorrance, paranoia, and the right to bare arms could converge into a maelstrom of misdirected revolt. Obama with a crosshair on the "O". Did you see that poster? People are coming apart at the seams, it seems. If they kill Obama then take away their weapons, all their ****ing weapons. That would be just punishment. Maybe not the best thing for the country but I'm thinking maybe these NRA wing nuts are not level-headed enough to carry. It's looking more and more that way. What next? A fist fight during the State of the Union? Or just a lone shot from the balcony? It's getting ugly down here, shamefully ugly.
It really is shameful. Maybe losing the civil war has caused a chain reaction of isolationism, inbreeding, a permanent state of disillusionment, disenfranchisement and buthurtedness. Shipping the Civil War losers back to Africa for personal, individual, back breaking reparations probably would have been better than leaving them on America soil with their dehumanizing , slave trading and war crimes unpunished. I'll bet only God could do that but, hell, they own God... and have the receipts to prove it.
It only takes a few generations for them to forget the damage they brought to humanity, with their losing, nazi behaviors, and start acting like nazis again.
Dont Presidents get murdered under conditions like these? Too bad we cant look to a 'nation of laws conservative" for justice or truth... they dont deal with either anymore.
I'll bet only God could do that but, hell, they own God... and have the receipts to prove it.
Yeah, reciepts for a big ole tax break. It's government sponsored religion. Or another form of welfare...like crop subsidies. You see, Gog, America is a welfare state, but they don't call it welfare when the beneficiaries are white, rich, in the heartland, in the military, a retired fire fighter, etc., etc., or any combination of the above...and more. Socialism comes in many forms - another conveniently ignored fact by our friends on the right.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Ya know, the more I listen to you three, the more I realize maybe we DO need socialized medicine so you can get refills on your lithium scripts..... And froggie, yer disparaging remarks about the quality of U.S. troops speaks volumes. (as if n.a.t.o., note "small "n") troops would have been a deterent then (or NOW). Well, it's satisfying to see our efforts to keep democracy alive and well over there are working as your previous posts wouldn't have existed without the help of our "poor shadows" of soldiers. Somehow, I have my doubts you'd be stupid enough to utter that statement out loud even around the proud (and capable) female members of the BEST TRAINED, BEST EQUIPPED, MOST CAPABLE fighting AND PEACEKEEPING force the world has EVER seen. So light that Gitanes and relax with yer latte and croisant while we do the heavy lifting froggy.
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Yeah, reciepts for a big ole tax break. It's government sponsored religion. Or another form of welfare...like crop subsidies. You see, Gog, America is a welfare state, but they don't call it welfare when the beneficiaries are white, rich, in the heartland, in the military, a retired fire fighter, etc., etc., or any combination of the above...and more. Socialism comes in many forms - another conveniently ignored fact by our friends on the right.
That's simply untrue. You're better than this, A51. Don't act like Gog and group everyone who might disagree with you into the same big ole' group of bad guys.
The whole Tea Party movement started because of these exact issues. Our government is spending money at a rate that cannot be sustained. Of course it's not all Obama's fault. The people that are paying attention to what's really killing America are not fans of Bush, McCain, or Obama because those guys believe in, and deliver, a bigger government that we cannot afford. There are plenty of Republicans, Democrats, and others who understand this, and they've been more vocal than ever in the last year. People have a right to be pissed off. I hope it continues and I hope the anger grows as people become more informed, although the message is becoming more watered down as more people glam on and try to bring other issues to the table, but whatever... it's not a Republican vs. Democrat issue because the leaders of both parties have it wrong. There isn't a dime's worth of difference between them when you look at the scope of our problems.
I love your example because at the last Tea Party event around here, I was talking to a Democrat farmer specifically about farm subsidies. They don't help all farmers, after all.
Gee, I thought the Tea Parties were because they were all "racists" that hate barry 'cause he's mulato.............
-Rocky-
PS. ask nancy (puke!) pelosi, they're all "manufactured" not "real" Americans.....I can't wait to see her get her ass handed to her on this one!
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Gee, for being a fookin' canuk, you sure sound like a guilt ridden white apolagist lib, sorta sad, using the same logic, does that mean you're jealous of hillary's snatch? (assuming she HAS one!)
-Rocky-
PS. sorry ta burst yer bubble gag, but if ya wanna compare net incomes, dick lengths, you name it sally, I'm game. (ya see, while you were being home schooled in mommies igloo, I was out in the REAL world making a difference, AND a PAYCHECK!)
CLINK!
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Gee, for being a fookin' canuk, you sure sound like a guilt ridden white apolagist lib, sorta sad, using the same logic, does that mean you're jealous of hillary's snatch? (assuming she HAS one!)
-cockflea-
cockflea, how about you leave logic to those who know what it is. You dont even bother to learn what a metaphor is..
PS. sorry ta burst yer bubble gag, but if ya wanna compare netincomes, dick lengths, you name it sally, I'm game. (ya see, while you were being home schooled in mommies igloo, I was out in the REAL world making a difference, AND a PAYCHECK!) Dont widen your stance around me ya fruit.
If only we could pass cockflea and friends the bill for their fukups. How long would it take those brave, baton wielding, LA cops to pay off a billion dollar black beater's tab? How long for the war mongers to pay off Erroraq? I dont have a problem with NOT rubbing someone's honest mistakes in their face but when they reinvent themselves as an even more ignorant, bigger dumb ass hypocrite, there's a point. One would think that the right would be embarrassed, apologetic and ashamed but hey, thats the right wing ding-a-ling machine. I'll bet they'd change their tune if their taxes went up with their foreign exploits. It would be the equivalent of ending their subsidies. Start taxing and billing war mongering churches!
No oil dickheads for you in Iraq, the neocons failed in every aspect of their plan and now they rely on the stupid "base" to slogan off the new president as he is trying to fix it. Uber retarded. Go hide in shame fools.
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Baasinator: That's simply untrue. You're better than this, A51. Don't act like Gog and group everyone who might disagree with you into the same big ole' group of bad guys.
You know whats best? The guy who's been dead wrong about the people who were dead wrong about everything? Someone told you that you were special enough to know who's right and who's best? Lemme guess, you were raised in a religious atmosphere.
There's lots that I could amicably disagree with you over, I'm sure. Not hillbilly, lying, dumb ass chit though. Especially when it comes to extreme right lies and phony ass "intelligence" and "interpretations" with the only physical and philosophical rules being unerring loyalty to a pyramid of stupid people... If you support the lies...into the hopper ya go fool. And if you dont like it ..... ....... .... ..... ...... ...!
You know whats best? The guy who's been dead wrong about the people who were dead wrong about everything? Someone told you that you were special enough to know who's right and who's best? Lemme guess, you were raised in a religious atmosphere.
There's lots that I could amicably disagree with you over, I'm sure. Not hillbilly, lying, dumb ass chit though. Especially when it comes to extreme right lies and phony ass "intelligence" and "interpretations" with the only physical and philosophical rules being unerring loyalty to a pyramid of stupid people... If you support the lies...into the hopper ya go fool. And if you dont like it ..... ....... .... ..... ...... ...!
Does anybody understand what he just said?
I mean, seriously... what is your first language, Gog? I thought they spoke English up there - was I wrong? You don't understand what you read, and we can't understand what you write. Is it a translation problem?
Thumbs up to Smedley and hi medley of anti war actions. Comparing that to cockflea's proud desire to shoot women, dogs and villages...
Once again mommies boy, got some docs to back up yer comments on military life, or just a lifetime of watching Hogans Heros? 
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