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Old 10-27-2007, 03:29 AM
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Is anybody really confused about Iran's intentions?

Breitbart.tv » Iran Military Foot Drills Show Sword Ripping Through US Flag


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3839 - US deaths in Iraq. For Israel. Is it worth it?
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:51 AM
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They spend a lot of time practicing marching.



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Old 10-27-2007, 05:01 AM
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Is my interpretation off when I ask was that still an American flag chasing down their fighter jet at the end?


On a more serious note, how long do you think it'd take til we pin a US flag up in that square, if it came down to a war?
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:24 AM
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On a more serious note, how many more US soldiers are going to die for Israel when the US attacks Iran on behalf of only-democracy-in-the-Middle-East-Israel???

And don't think the US is going to invade Iran. It will just bomb the shit out of it from afar. For Israel.

When are the Speedzilla brainiacs going to wake up?
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:19 PM
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Nice marching band!

I have to agree that the symbolism of the flag being cut by the marching band sword is all the reason we need to go to war.
Not only go to war, but go in half cocked with no planning at all, we'll wing it like we are in Iraq, it will work out great I'm sure...

"Support The Troops" can be the revamped new slogan for the reason we are in Iran, like the good ol days of Iraq when the neotards shoved that sloganeering crap down Americas throat to shield themselves from having to answer a question about why we are in Iraq, they throw the troops honer on the line like a coward holding a kid up to shield himself from fire.

Good times, Good times.

Get them before they get us!
Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here!
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Vote for the guy Bin Laden doesn't want to be president!
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:24 PM
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Matthew, is anybody here really confused about Americas intentions ??

At least the Iranians have better choreography than the Neocon warbudgies. Could you image Bill Kristolnacht, Mik-heil Leadeen, Darth Cheney and all the other neocon scum trotting around to such stirring patriotic music in such precision ? It's just like a night at the ballet...

No, they'll just leave the fighting and dying to others, as usual. Then when it becomes apparent that the Iranian Adventure is becoming an even bigger quagmire than Iraq, they'll do their usual slithering off and deny that they ever had anything to do with such a stupid idea to attack Iran and involve America in a full on war with Russia, India and China.

Stupid, ignorant, dangerous and deluded putzheads.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:43 PM
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the simplest way to end all this is to "develop" a energy source thats not dependant on those crazy sand surfers. now dont go pegging me some tree hugging eco-guy, its just with the billions and billions spent over there, on top of the loss of lives it seem logical that we could come up with something. Hydrogen? dunno.... but those guys would go broke..no one buying their crap. and i know, with oil barons in power thats a stretch at the least, the money issue is so deep rooted. and people just go about their everday lives blind to the fact that their new hummer and suv just keeps the machine oiled up and spitting out money.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:08 PM
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Oorah !! Sanity !!

Fearing Fear Itself

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 29, 2007

In America’s darkest hour, Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged the nation not to succumb to “nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror.” But that was then.

Paul Krugman.

Today, many of the men who hope to be the next president — including all of the candidates with a significant chance of receiving the Republican nomination — have made unreasoning, unjustified terror the centerpiece of their campaigns.
Consider, for a moment, the implications of the fact that Rudy Giuliani is taking foreign policy advice from Norman Podhoretz, who wants us to start bombing Iran “as soon as it is logistically possible.”
Mr. Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary and a founding neoconservative, tells us that Iran is the “main center of the Islamofascist ideology against which we have been fighting since 9/11.” The Islamofascists, he tells us, are well on their way toward creating a world “shaped by their will and tailored to their wishes.” Indeed, “Already, some observers are warning that by the end of the 21st century the whole of Europe will be transformed into a place to which they give the name Eurabia.”
Do I have to point out that none of this makes a bit of sense?
For one thing, there isn’t actually any such thing as Islamofascism — it’s not an ideology; it’s a figment of the neocon imagination. The term came into vogue only because it was a way for Iraq hawks to gloss over the awkward transition from pursuing Osama bin Laden, who attacked America, to Saddam Hussein, who didn’t. And Iran had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11 — in fact, the Iranian regime was quite helpful to the United States when it went after Al Qaeda and its Taliban allies in Afghanistan.
Beyond that, the claim that Iran is on the path to global domination is beyond ludicrous. Yes, the Iranian regime is a nasty piece of work in many ways, and it would be a bad thing if that regime acquired nuclear weapons. But let’s have some perspective, please: we’re talking about a country with roughly the G.D.P. of Connecticut, and a government whose military budget is roughly the same as Sweden’s.
Meanwhile, the idea that bombing will bring the Iranian regime to its knees — and bombing is the only option, since we’ve run out of troops — is pure wishful thinking. Last year Israel tried to cripple Hezbollah with an air campaign, and ended up strengthening it instead. There’s every reason to believe that an attack on Iran would produce the same result, with the added effects of endangering U.S. forces in Iraq and driving oil prices well into triple digits.
Mr. Podhoretz, in short, is engaging in what my relatives call crazy talk. Yet he is being treated with respect by the front-runner for the G.O.P. nomination. And Mr. Podhoretz’s rants are, if anything, saner than some of what we’ve been hearing from some of Mr. Giuliani’s rivals.
Thus, in a recent campaign ad Mitt Romney asserted that America is in a struggle with people who aim “to unite the world under a single jihadist Caliphate. To do that they must collapse freedom-loving nations. Like us.” He doesn’t say exactly who these jihadists are, but presumably he’s referring to Al Qaeda — an organization that has certainly demonstrated its willingness and ability to kill innocent people, but has no chance of collapsing the United States, let alone taking over the world.
And Mike Huckabee, whom reporters like to portray as a nice, reasonable guy, says that if Hillary Clinton is elected, “I’m not sure we’ll have the courage and the will and the resolve to fight the greatest threat this country’s ever faced in Islamofascism.” Yep, a bunch of lightly armed terrorists and a fourth-rate military power — which aren’t even allies — pose a greater danger than Hitler’s panzers or the Soviet nuclear arsenal ever did.
All of this would be funny if it weren’t so serious.
In the wake of 9/11, the Bush administration adopted fear-mongering as a political strategy. Instead of treating the attack as what it was — an atrocity committed by a fundamentally weak, though ruthless adversary — the administration portrayed America as a nation under threat from every direction.
Most Americans have now regained their balance. But the Republican base, which lapped up the administration’s rhetoric about the axis of evil and the war on terror, remains infected by the fear the Bushies stirred up — perhaps because fear of terrorists maps so easily into the base’s older fears, including fear of dark-skinned people in general.
And the base is looking for a candidate who shares this fear.
Just to be clear, Al Qaeda is a real threat, and so is the Iranian nuclear program. But neither of these threats frightens me as much as fear itself — the unreasoning fear that has taken over one of America’s two great political parties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/op...in&oref=slogin
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:58 AM
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Stupid, idiotic RW dingalings.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:45 AM
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Rudy Giuliani is taking foreign policy advice from Norman Podhoretz
F'ing hell! You have got to be kidding me. Norman Podhoretz is a damn nut. If Rudy is lending his ear then Rudy is history, in my book.
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