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Old 07-04-2005, 06:44 AM
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Default Vtr1000 dies randomly.

Anybody else have this issue? Starts right back up afterwards. Only when you pull the clutch in and off throttle. Dealer had it, adjusted jetting and float height. I haven't had a chance to work on it.
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Old 07-04-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Vtr1000 dies randomly. (pappawheelie)

I had it happen once at speed a long time ago when I was trying to shake out a cramp. Idle too low, or carbs out of balance?

Side note, on my bike my mechanic replaced the screw you'd attach the vacuum tube to when balancing carbs with a nozzle that had a rubber cap. You could pull the cap off with a grabby tool, and it took years off the time it took to balance. Can't say what it was offhand, but it was a Honda part.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Vtr1000 dies randomly. (pappawheelie)

I have the same problem with my Hawk. It doesn't feel like a fuel problem to me though, but who knows. It happens to me mostly when I am coming up to a stop but it happened to my husband the other day at 75mph on the freeway, when he pulled in the clutch. My bike's been doing it for years. I just can't be without it long enough to send it into the shop!
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Vtr1000 dies randomly. (super996mum)

35,000 on mine and it randomly dies too, right after a little poof into the airbox... nothing changed it, valve check = in spec, adj fuel screws, no change... they randomly do it.. nothing big, just pull in the clutch and restart or set your idle a little higher
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:12 AM
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Could this be the solution: http://www.superhawkforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=99
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: (john2kvtr)

Probably not. Nor is turning the vent hoses in a different direction. Its an air velocity problem that Honda attempted to fix in 2000 with necked down carb boots.

I've been experimenting lately with setting the idle at 1400 rpms, with pretty good success. But its really too early to tell. At least this idea addresses the root cause.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:56 PM
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i have a 2000 that used to clunk die all the time. i added a dynojet kit and adjusted the tps and rerouted the carb vents. i havent had a single episode since then.it has been about 14,000 miles since my last clunk die.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:54 PM
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I'd be interested in your theory about why these things might have worked for you.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:15 PM
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i forgot to mention i also got rid of the pair system. i think the reason it all has worked for me is because of several little things that cause a lean misfire condition at idle,also intake velocity at low rpm"s is low. careful setup of the carbs,tps adjust and pair removal all help in preventing that low rpm misfire.dont forget to synch your carbs also.i also had an idle that would jump several hundred rpm.but since i added the jet kit and other adjustments my idle is very stable.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:58 PM
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Interesting. The TPS doesn't have anything to do with idle, and I don't think turning the hoses does anything, but I'm with you on your other mods.

Just to be sure, are we talking about the same thing? You pull in the clutch at some revs (say 4-5k) and the decel overruns the idle setting and stalls?

I noticed we're townies BTW. Might be nice to get together a Baltimore SHawk ride.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:48 PM
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when you pull in your clutch ,you get a little puff into the airbox then it dies ,is this correct?my dyno jet settings are 21/2 turns mixt. screws,180,185 main jets,needle 4th groove from bottom.exhaust is stock debaffled=LOUD!it used to stall just slowing for a corner . it was pretty annoying ,but since i tinkered with it ,it just hasnt happened .
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:40 PM
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I had the problem intermittently for a while. With a slightly higher idle it rarely happens.

I had a problem at track days with the carbs loading up and fouling plugs on hard decelerations. It would miss a couple times then take off like a scalded cat. It was suggested by a friend that I reoute the carb vent hoses so they both vented downward between the carb rails to get them out of the pressure wave caused by the deceleration. The problem completely went away.

I'm with jschmidt. I don't understand all the talk about TPS adjustment.
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:47 AM
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im not real sure about tps adjust either.but since i performed the items i mentioned earlier i havent had the prob since. that includes rerouting the carb vents also.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:33 PM
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Hasn't happened since I upped the idle. I've now got it set at 1300 which seems to be about right. It's not an offensively fast idle.

My bike is a '98, without the Honda carb boot fix.
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:11 AM
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This happened to me yesterday, I have only been rideing for a little over a week and my first time on the highway ( during rush hour no less ) the bike just died. Luckily i was in the slow lane so i was able to pull over to the shoulder and coast to an exit about 50 yards in front of me. Needless to say i am now freaked out and dont want to get on the highway again. I was going to call the dealership on monday and have them look at it when i have my 600mile tuneup done. Will they know about this issue and be able to fix, i have read all your suggestions but know nothing about how to make any of the recommended fixes. Also if/when this happens again all i need to do is pull in the clutch and press the ignition? Should i leave it in the same gear i was in or downshift? Other then this one issue buying this bike was the best decision ive ever made
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:51 AM
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This happened to me yesterday, I have only been rideing for a little over a week and my first time on the highway ( during rush hour no less ) the bike just died. Luckily i was in the slow lane so i was able to pull over to the shoulder and coast to an exit about 50 yards in front of me. Needless to say i am now freaked out and dont want to get on the highway again. I was going to call the dealership on monday and have them look at it when i have my 600mile tuneup done. Will they know about this issue and be able to fix, i have read all your suggestions but know nothing about how to make any of the recommended fixes. Also if/when this happens again all i need to do is pull in the clutch and press the ignition? Should i leave it in the same gear i was in or downshift? Other then this one issue buying this bike was the best decision ive ever made
Just pull in the clutch and push the starter button.
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:03 AM
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It happened to me the other day at work. I thought my bike was jetted and have heard of this dieing thing with the Supchicken. I have an aftermarket airbox deal and didn't see this coming. I'm not really technically inclined, but I'm still out here loving the ride!!
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:09 AM
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My '04 RC51 does the same thing,from day three,like 200 miles.Been back to 2 dealers 5 times,replicated once,and they checked all connections,no codes.They can't seem to replicate it since then,so Honda says give it back.[bought it leftover,still under warranty]It will quit upon pulling the clutch and shutting the throttle,or will start to surge and buck while part throttle cruising.When it stalls it typically lights up the airbox.It can do it a few times in a row while in traffic,or it will go a month and be fine,then just as you thing it is fine,it will do it again.It has survived the dealers until the last visit a week ago,when it got a couple of small scratches in my seat cowl,still not sure what they'll do about it.Honda themselves are of no help,I think they are sick of hearing from me,I get turned right off by them.It's an awesome bike when running right,but this thing actually makes me love my TL more and more..Sorry for the rant
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:35 AM
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My'03 VTR does it too. (TBR full exhaust, Dynajet, stock air filter)
Seems to be an issue on all VTRs (mb those big ass 48mm carbs?)
Reset my idle up to 1300rpm & it helped.
Had to make a rule....NO COASTING on the highway! (even tho it easily reatarts by pulling in the clutch, pressing the start button, & giving it a little gas.
Finally just bought a VIsta Cruise Control for $23 for those times I need to stretch my right arm on the highway.

Some people call this bike a Japenese Ducati. Well then.... maybe it has taken on some Italian machine type idiosyncrasies. Thank god they don't leak oil like a Ducati

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Old 12-03-2005, 03:15 AM
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i did a complete over haul on my hawk including readjusting the idle sensor located on the side of the carbs, you need a multi meter to adjust it to the right specs believe me this will cure your problem
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