We put this exhaust on my friends 05 RC51 about two three months ago. It lasted 1500 miles before complete failure but started to show signs of the looming destruction after only a few hundred miles. The exhaust was bought from a member here who makes them. Beware! Almost immediately it started to discolor, and after it split in two it was obvious why. The packing inside the can was done so bad that for the first three inches there was no material.
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LOL, in for the show. To OP - Sorry that happened man. You should hit up Simon Kobe, he has some some exhausts in the classified section and they are top notch. I would strongly recommend, as would many other members here.
Who is the buyer and why have they not contacted me?
so the can was showing signs of a issue after a few hundred miles then you continued to beat on if for another 1000+ miles and then you realized it was going to fail?
Who is the buyer and why have they not contacted me?
so the can was showing signs of a issue after a few hundred miles then you continued to beat on if for another 1000+ mikes and then you realized it was going to fail?
Does it matter? Your shit is garbage and you know it. Why did you delete your thread with these pictures posted?
still find it odd they saw signs of a problem in a few hundred then never contacted me and beat on it for another 1000 miles and are pissed at me
I PMed scuz about the contact info from his friend as i have not heard anything b4 today and he started a beware thread about me odd
I am sorry for the issue but can't support customer when i don't hear about it or have a chance to make things right. I would have taken the can back and had it looked at and replaced it no problem, i was not given a chance not much i can do. I have literally sold 30 2-1 mufflers and this is the first i am hearing of it. It sux for sure but i am still wondering why i can't get the contact info of the buyer? I also wonder why you would run a can showing damage then complain about it after failure?
still find it odd they saw signs of a problem in a few hundred then never contacted me and beat on it for another 1000 miles and are pissed at me
I PMed scuz about the contact info from his friend as i have not heard anything b4 today and he started a beware thread about me odd
I am sorry for the issue but can't support customer when i don't hear about it or have a chance to make things right. I would have taken the can back and had it looked at and replaced it no problem, i was not given a chance not much i can do. I have literally sold 30 2-1 mufflers and this is the first i am hearing of it. It sux for sure but i am still wondering why i can't get the contact info of the buyer? I also wonder why you would run a can showing damage then complain about it after failure?
Here's some cheese to go with your whine
& for those of you that are interested in some of these awesome BLACK DRAGON exhausts you can purchase them here, but hurry up before MrGerm has the mods pull the thread down like he always does when someone points out how shitty/shoddy his practices and products are.
You should really be worried about the quality of your products, and not who is "out to get you" on the internet. Do you know which 10 year old it was in china that packed that can?
You should really be worried about the quality of your products, and not who is "out to get you" on the internet. Do you know which 10 year old it was in china that packed that can?
still find it odd they saw signs of a problem in a few hundred then never contacted me and beat on it for another 1000 miles and are pissed at me
I PMed scuz about the contact info from his friend as i have not heard anything b4 today and he started a beware thread about me odd
I am sorry for the issue but can't support customer when i don't hear about it or have a chance to make things right. I would have taken the can back and had it looked at and replaced it no problem, i was not given a chance not much i can do. I have literally sold 30 2-1 mufflers and this is the first i am hearing of it. It sux for sure but i am still wondering why i can't get the contact info of the buyer? I also wonder why you would run a can showing damage then complain about it after failure?
its more fun this way!
Mark,on a serious note.....get away from carbon exhaust.
It will just cause you more headaches.
you offer titanium and aluminum correct?
its more fun this way!
Mark,on a serious note.....get away from carbon exhaust.
It will just cause you more headaches.
you offer titanium and aluminum correct?
please check my site i offer them all
i am honest, this is the first issue other then shanes supposed issue in over 4 years now. i have had nothing but awesome reviews and a whole site full of happy customer pics. I said when i started i was here to support and i meant it. I am here to listen and help and try to bring what people want. Shane had a issue right off and even though it looked odd i made it right as quick as i could and made it right. I have had one other small isuue with a weld rattlin loose and doing what i can to make that right as well. I have to say after all that i have done, and sold i am very please and looking forward to making changes and moving ahead in the positive and right direction. This is not the norm and i am surprised to say the least. I have sold so many of these and have had no other issues like this so i am a bit POed i could not get it back before the intentional destruction so i could examine it. The supplier of the mufflers assured me he dynoed a 51 with two of these with 5000 mile mufflers and did like 5 back to back runs with no damage
I am glad to support my products but this is hard to support and seems more like a witch hunt then a honest attempt for me to provide CS how do i know it does not have 20 dyno runs on it. I am still baffled why you would run a muffler you know is damaged and not make the call or email about it to the supplier(me)?
If this friend had a issue even though i don't warranty carbon as nobody else does i would have glady wanted it back and made it right. AS a supplier my hands are tied to what i hear and see for CS and i do what i can. I don't feel like beating on the can and then complaining was the best way to get a resolve or help me provide better CS
MRGRN,
My friend will contact you today make this right. I'm not sure what you mean by beating on the can, the only abuse the can took was from the exhaust gases trying to escape before reaching the outlet because of lack of packing. He is very easy on his bike and all miles were commuter miles. He knows he got screwed but is not the type to complain so that's why I posted when I saw you were trying to sell more of these. Hopefully you make this right and I can post about a reasonable outcome.
MRGRN,
My friend will contact you today make this right. I'm not sure what you mean by beating on the can, the only abuse the can took was from the exhaust gases trying to escape before reaching the outlet because of lack of packing. He is very easy on his bike and all miles were commuter miles. He knows he got screwed but is not the type to complain so that's why I posted when I saw you were trying to sell more of these. Hopefully you make this right and I can post about a reasonable outcome.
not going to make anything right, now.
i have been selling these not "trying" for like 4 years. i shipped 4 slip-on exhaust today alone and have had no issues. you have bad couth in trying to start some witch hunt and your friend should have taken the can off in the first few hundred miles when you admit you knew there was a issue and i gladly would have no problems.
you are not doing your friend and favors and certianly not making a reasonable outcome either. i have a email and phone(your friend knows them i am sure) and the right thing to do would have been to call or email like anybody ele not bash on me after offering me no chance to help or make it right
Oh sweet Baby Jesus! For years you cried about your Sato exhaust on your R1 being faulty and now you're selling faulty products. Told everyone to stay away from them. But no, they all want some Chinese knockoff shite and look where that got them. That's the 2nd exhaust failure. When will it end? Is there no quality control?
Today is a good day! Well, not for the OP, but for mankind in general!
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Normally I wouldn't get involved in this mess but this time I will comment as a neutral party. I AGREE with Mark on this one. I don't have anything against Mark nor have I ever bought from him but expecting him to "make this right" is absurd. You all have your issues with Mark so the minute you discovered something wrong I think you would jump at the chance to have him replace it. And if he didn't he would have validated everything you claim about him. Instead it seems like your friend deliberately burned up the can. No one would take that can back like that when you admitted you knew something was wrong and kept on "commuting" anyway. Your friend destroyed that can to make a point. And now you guys start a thread insulting him and expect him to make it right. What you should have done was call Mark when you found the problem and then start a thread. That way we all could see how he treats his customers in an unbiased way. I would respect that more than the constant 'KILL MR.GREEN" rants.
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Brown Carbon can should of told the owner that it needed repack. Holy moly at least this guy asked before the satos bit it. http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/rc5...ng-normal.html LDH says need to be repack asap but why. Maybe he likes the louder sound? Browning of the can telling LDH something.
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Normally I wouldn't get involved in this mess but this time I will comment as a neutral party. I AGREE with Mark on this one. I don't have anything against Mark nor have I ever bought from him but expecting him to "make this right" is absurd. You all have your issues with Mark so the minute you discovered something wrong I think you would jump at the chance to have him replace it. And if he didn't he would have validated everything you claim about him. Instead it seems like your friend deliberately burned up the can. No one would take that can back like that when you admitted you knew something was wrong and kept on "commuting" anyway. Your friend destroyed that can to make a point. And now you guys start a thread insulting him and expect him to make it right. What you should have done was call Mark when you found the problem and then start a thread. That way we all could see how he treats his customers in an unbiased way. I would respect that more than the constant 'KILL MR.GREEN" rants.
Mark has been bashing Sato for years and they made it right with him. How is this different? The guy has gone around bashing Sato, Dan Kyle, LDH etc etc about his R1 cans melting. These people are big names in the Industry and ALWAYS make it right yet he continues to harp on his cans that melted.
Playing victim doesn't actually make you. This is just called karma.
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Brown Carbon can should of told the owner that it needed repack. Holy moly at least this guy asked before the satos bit it. http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/rc5...ng-normal.html LDH says need to be repack asap but why. Maybe he likes the louder sound? Browning of the can telling LDH something.
Repacking at 1500 miles? Stop being silly. The poor guy bought junk and it failed on him. Poor fella.
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