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Old 01-17-2006, 05:36 PM
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Default MV Agusta WSBK Homoglation effort...

This is most like the homoglated effort we'll see from MV Agusta in regards to their contesting the World Superbike Championship. Looks pretty good to me.





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Old 01-17-2006, 05:48 PM
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It is beautiful!!! I missed my F4 Strada already.
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Is it a factroy effort or just a private team?
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Is it a factroy effort or just a private team?
Should be a Factory MV Corse Team.. I think it will be 2007 before they actually compete though.
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Are they sponsored by greyhound bus lines?

I was almost sure its private, I doubt if the company has the ability at this point to support a racing effort.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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The bike is nice – but the paint scheme sux.

Matte colors and army stenciled numbers looks like something from a bad Mad Max biker movie.

There are SO many nicely done MV’s out there. The Corse red and silver being on (which is the traditional factory color scheme).

Also – they should have blacked out the mid pipes. It is the only shiny metal o the right side of the bike.



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...if I remember correctly, the paint scheme pays tribute to an Italian military jet.
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...if I remember correctly, the paint scheme pays tribute to an Italian military jet.
Close...... 23 Gruppo Caccia....an Italian F-16 Fighting Falcon squadron...check out their logo...just like the bike. The grays are their interpretation of low-viz color scheme used by the F-16's.

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Close...... 23 Gruppo Caccia....an Italian F-16 Fighting Falcon squadron...check out their logo...just like the bike. The grays are their interpretation of low-viz color scheme used by the F-16's.

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/23gruppo/
Good find... I know this bike will run the 173 HP tamburini engine for homoglation, then who knows where it will go from there for WSBK.
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tasty little morsel there
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WOW Would be good to see another in the war!
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As far as i know, this bike is just an (expensive) limited serial.
It's not related to the real MV SBK thing that should appear sooner.
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Close...... 23 Gruppo Caccia....an Italian F-16 Fighting Falcon squadron...check out their logo...just like the bike. The grays are their interpretation of low-viz color scheme used by the F-16's.

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/23gruppo/
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It is probably just me, but the front just seems to be missing something without the stacked headlights. A plain white numberplate doesn't seem right.

What is interesting is that the F4 was unveiled over eight years ago, and even Tamburini has not been able to improve upon the shape. No replacement has been even mentioned, all "new" MV's are just variations on the same thing (new liter engine not withstanding). Probably the best-looking streetbike ever.
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It is probably just me, but the front just seems to be missing something without the stacked headlights. A plain white numberplate doesn't seem right.

What is interesting is that the F4 was unveiled over eight years ago, and even Tamburini has not been able to improve upon the shape. No replacement has been even mentioned, all "new" MV's are just variations on the same thing (new liter engine not withstanding). Probably the best-looking streetbike ever.
It's funny.. but that exact phenomenom happened with another bike designed by Mr. Tamburini, the 916 Ducati... Amazing the impact his designs have.
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1993-2003 ....916/748/996/998 ring a bell ???
Tamburini's designs seem to have a pierless longevity to them.
I think the F4 is repeating the same pattern as the 916
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1993-2003 ....916/748/996/998 ring a bell ???
Tamburini's designs seem to have a pierless longevity to them.
I think the F4 is repeating the same pattern as the 916
I like both, not complaining, just an observation.

Unfortunately the pattern has been repeated in ways that are not so great as well, both companies also have went broke during the production of these bikes(Ducati in '96, MV a couple of years ago). You have to wonder if having financial problems three or four years into production delayed development of a replacement model for both bikes.

For Ducati that was certainly the case. Tamburini staying with Cagiva after the TPG purchase probably didn't help either.

I cannot imagine what the MV replacement would look like, the shape of the current F4 will be difficult to improve. I thought the same about the 916 as well, but when the F4 came out, suddenly the 916 was first runner-up in the bike beauty contest.
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I like both, not complaining, just an observation.

Unfortunately the pattern has been repeated in ways that are not so great as well, both companies also have went broke during the production of these bikes(Ducati in '96, MV a couple of years ago). You have to wonder if having financial problems three or four years into production delayed development of a replacement model for both bikes.

For Ducati that was certainly the case. Tamburini staying with Cagiva after the TPG purchase probably didn't help either.

I cannot imagine what the MV replacement would look like, the shape of the current F4 will be difficult to improve. I thought the same about the 916 as well, but when the F4 came out, suddenly the 916 was first runner-up in the bike beauty contest.
Actually MV was just sold bt Proton for one Euro but the company that bought them, GEVI Spa, incurred MV's 150,000,000 E debt. They are in serious trouble.

The F4 was developed while Tamburini was still with Ducati but after being treated poorly by the Texas group he left Ducati and took the F4 with him. Ducati refers to him as "The Bandit". This left Ducati with Terblanch. The F4 would have been the 999 and everything would probably be different if the new guys weren't sending the Chief Designer to get their coffee.

What does the future hold? Will Tamburini retire if MV tanks? Will he kiss and make up with Ducati now that they are back in Italian hands? It should be an interesting story to watch unfold.
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Actually MV was just sold bt Proton for one Euro but the company that bought them, GEVI Spa, incurred MV's 150,000,000 E debt. They are in serious trouble.

The F4 was developed while Tamburini was still with Ducati but after being treated poorly by the Texas group he left Ducati and took the F4 with him. Ducati refers to him as "The Bandit". This left Ducati with Terblanch. The F4 would have been the 999 and everything would probably be different if the new guys weren't sending the Chief Designer to get their coffee.

What does the future hold? Will Tamburini retire if MV tanks? Will he kiss and make up with Ducati now that they are back in Italian hands? It should be an interesting story to watch unfold.
I'd always thought the plan was that the F4 was going to be badged as a Cagiva (Cycle World had artist pictures way back in '93/94), then when Castiglioni acquired the MV name, it shifted over to MV Agusta name. I don't argue that the F4 is more of the sequel to the 916 than the 999 is though. If you disregard engine configuration, the 916 and F4 share many of the same design elements such as SSSA, cross-mounted steering damper, tube frame, etc.
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