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Old 12-13-2007, 03:02 AM
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My battery is shot, so this spring I am planning to get a new one. I had to replace the battery when I first bought the bike and I chose the stock replacement Yuasa, and it seems extremely heavy! Are there any other good alternatives for this bike (2000, 900SSie) that save some weight savings?
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:31 AM
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You could toss a YT-12-B in there. That's what the 2001~up bikes had. It's an AGM so it's smaller and lighter but it still puts enough juice out that the bike won't be finicky. I don't know about the SuperSports, but on some Superbikes it seems like the smaller batteries (like a ytz7) aren't up to street use, especially on colder mornings.

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Old 12-14-2007, 12:23 AM
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I'm using this on my 98 FE with high comp pistons and a few my other bikes:

Odyssey Drycell Battery


It has more starting power than the oEM battery --but a little less reserve. Not a problem unless your bike takes more than 10 cranks to start.

Weighs about 5 lbs.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:43 AM
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I've used the oddyssey in my FE and have since gone back to a yb16, no real benifit for a daily ride
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:20 AM
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I bought an Odyssey PC310 for my 2000 M900ie street bike last year. It has not given me one problem. It cranks the bike over better than the stock battery and weights 1/2 as much as the stock one. The only down side is that it doesn't fit the stock battery holder very well. However I was able to make it fit without too much hassle.

The next real test of how it works will be how long it lasts. It is supposed to last 2-3 x longer than a standard battery. It is also supposed to be able to deep cycle, something regular lead acid type batteries do not do well.

Another difference is that it needs to be charged with a higher amp charger than the normal trickle charger ie. low amp (battery tender etc.) type. That is not a problem if you have an automotive type charger that can do 6-10 amps. It seems the best way to monitor the charge level of these type of batteries is to check the voltage and compare it to the appropriate charge level that is required for that specific battery. All of this info is on the web site Odyssey Batteries .

Overall I am still satistfied with the battery and would consider using one in another bike.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:26 AM
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I've used the oddyssey in my FE and have since gone back to a yb16, no real benifit for a daily ride
Maybe not in sunny, warm, FLAT Florida! Try further north where it gets COLD !!!

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Another difference is that it needs to be charged with a higher amp charger than the normal trickle charger ie. low amp (battery tender etc.) type. That is not a problem if you have an automotive type charger that can do 6-10 amps.
I called them I was told that the battery tender was fine.

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Overall I am still satistfied with the battery and would consider using one in another bike.
I´m undecided between the PC680 that fits right in or the odd shaped PC310. I´ve got at least a month and a half before riding season starts. As far as I´m concerned YUASA is history.
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The PC680 is 15 pounds!
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The PC680 is 15 pounds!
That's what's stopped me so far.
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:54 PM
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The PC680 is 15 pounds!
I'm aware of it. I have it on the 851. So what? I'll make sure I go to the bathroom before riding.

The SS is a 944 with 41mm carbs. i'm tired of starting "issues". I recently repalced sprag clutch, starter and wiring.

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That's what's stopped me so far.
Don't let it stop you. Worth the extra cold amp power. At least for those without a choke. I'm in Havertown. I used to have a hell of a time starting it unless it was in the 60s. No more !!!
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:40 PM
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I'm using this charger on the PC310:
ACI Supercharger Battery Charger/Maintainer 3AMP
it charges faster and deeper with drycell batteries.

The standard Battery tender would not even charge a dead Odyssey. There is a new BT with more amps that will charge the odyssey and Optima batteries--but the ACI is designed to be used with boats--so it is all sealed up and more compact. I've been using mine on the cars, boat and bikes for about 5 years with no problems.

As for the size:
I'm using the PC680 in my car...it is overkill for the bike.

My M944 with hi comp pistons and flatslides starts better with the PC310 than the original battery. Same with the 900SS w/high comp pistons, MV and 1098...
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Don't let it stop you. Worth the extra cold amp power. At least for those without a choke. I'm in Havertown. I used to have a hell of a time starting it unless it was in the 60s. No more !!!
OK, I'll rethink it -- particularly given how much colder it is up North here in Bryn Mawr!
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:37 PM
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I know you're mad at the yb16al-a2 wet cell battery ... but I'd like to share my thoughts about the newer battery ducati uses. (in all the 01 and up bikes)

We've got a few monsters for the purpose of going to vendors for R&D. These bikes go there and sit around ... sometimes for a year. I was stunned when Fred the 620 went away for a year and how his battery fared.

He hadn't been started even one time. Nothing was done to prep him for the lay up. Got him back and the battery was absolutely flat. The battery tender didn't want to do anything, so I put the car-type charger on at the 2Amp setting. The next day, I put on the Tender. The following day, Fred started up and you would never know that the bike had been sitting. The old wet cell would never have come back from that! I am truly amazed at how good the new batteries are.

In 2001, most Ducati models still had battery boxes for the larger wet cell battery but the YT12BBS was installed in its place. Most folks can make a YT12BBS work where the wet cell lived before. The 12 is thicker than the wetcell, but only by the amount of the rubber liner (for the wet cell) found in most boxes. The battery is shorter, so it may need to be turned around and cables re-reouted to hook up the leads. In several years of selling the 12s to customers, only 1 asked for a return because they couldn't make it work. IMO, they didn't want to take the time to sort out the different options for the cable routing.

About starting: whenever I work on a hi-comp bike, the first thing I do is replace all the wires in the starting circuit with stranded 4ga battery cable. You can order premade wires for harleys, but costs less to go to Napa and buy the parts you need. These wires gave the tiny YTZ7S the ability to work on my Pongo (104hp M966 2v) and alllmost be reliable as a daily driver. I did have to put Pongo on the Tender when parked for the night, but this setup certainly made the starter spin easily enough.

Since it's mentioned here and elsewhere in this thread ... the YTZ7S *is* ok to use for street riding. BUT it's not for someone who must have 100% reliability -- and it MUST be on a battery tender 24/7. While Pongo never stranded me, there was a time or 2 when I wondered if I'd be able to start the bike and make it home! The YTZ7S is very robust for 8 months to a year and then will start to loose a little oomph.

I used 2 ytz7s batteries in parallel on my MH900e and that setup is exceptionally reliable. The MH comes from Ducati with a pair of very weak batteries. The ecu drains them too quickly ... and they get tired easily. Without extreme care, the batteries simply die in a year to 18 months. When mine died, I install a pair of the ytz7s batteries. They're smaller than the OEM battery, so I used cardboard to take up the slack. With the pair of ytz7s's, the MH became very reliable. Even with its wimpy cable from the solenoid to the starter, the engine would excitedly turn over and come to life.

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Old 02-24-2008, 07:21 PM
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The 851 was a ROYAL bitch to start. And 8 times out of ten, on cold mornings I'd have to ride something else because it'd run out of juice before I could get it going. I recently had to replace the sprag clutch that burnt due to weak batteries, so I installed the PC680.

Purposedlu left it in the garage WITHOUT a tender from Xmas thru last Monday. I'm in suburban Philly so you all can figure how cold it's been here in the first two and a half months of the year.

First hit, and it started right up.

On Thursday I ordered another one for the '96 944 SS.

No I don't sell this things, nor do I have stock in the company...

They both have new starting wiring so I ready to enjoy many, many moons of trouble free cold starts.....
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ugh..I've been having starting issues with my 944 SS for years now...
I have read your suggestions and bit the bullet ...I went for the PC680.
Also being from Suburban Philly I though it was the better way to go.

A 15lb batter means nothing compared to my fat ass on the bike...
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After 14 months in storge, my 2 yr old YT-12-B would not 100% start w/o a 48hr warm-up on a battery tender. Had it checked-out and bench charged for a week. Failed voltage drop under load.

a new YT-12-B from the dealer, or another Yuasa dealer was $150+, I was bitter because I only used that one for ~ 1 yr.

Battery Mart in Winchester, VA (and on-line) Same battery, same part # (AGM type), same size, connectors ect. ~$60.00! been 2 weeks, and it works great.
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Another vote for the PC680. It pretty much drops in with no alterations required. I got tired of buying new batteries every other year and having to remember to put it on the tender or risk getting stranded. With the Odyssey I didn't plug it in last winter, it sat for 5 months and still read 12.8v in the spring, had plenty of juice even when it took a minute of cranking to get the motor going.

Battery Mart had the best price.
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