Need advice for brakes

FunkZ · #1 (**permalink**) 03-16-2007, 06:07 AM

I have a 95 900 CR that needs new front brakes. The rotors have been warped I think for awhile now, they pulse when applied and you can hear the rythmic drag when the wheel is turning. The original pads are shot and figured I would do everything at once.

I was looking at EBC HH pads and possibly picking up a set of mildly used stock rotors, would any 320mm Ducati rotor fit as long as it has the 6-hole mounting? The other option of course would be to buy new rotors but even looking at a low-cost rotor like EBC stainless it would be over $300 for the pair.

Looking for recommendations to get ready for this riding season without breaking the bank. Thanks!

chris900ssie · #2 (**permalink**) 03-16-2007, 11:07 AM

Yep, they are all they same.

Monster, ST, 916, 748, SS, SSie. solong as they have the 6 bolt fitting you are OK.

Go for the later ones with the spider web carrier, they are a bit lighter! Plenty of them on Ebay.

Chris

foggy123 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-16-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkZ

would any 320mm Ducati rotor fit as long as it has the 6-hole mounting? !

Nope. 748R, 996R and 998R won't fit 15mm offset.

cdansan · #4 (**permalink**) 03-16-2007, 11:01 PM

Also dont use the HH pads on cast iron rotors. If you are lucky enough to find them affordably.

ducktullio · #5 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 05:06 AM

ebc hh pads are great especially for the price. the actually made my rear brake useful. stainless rotors only

ducinthebay · #6 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 06:54 AM

Yamah yzf and fzr rotors are the same bolt pattern and offset and thickness as Ducati rotors. two things to check though, many Yamaha rotors are 300mm, only a few models had 320mm. Also, around 2001 they went to a bigger mounting hole pattern. You will notice this easily in a picture.

If you check the EBC site, you can see that the 2003 rotors fit both Ducati and some Yamahas.

I add another vote to EBC HH pads. I tried Galfer Greens, and liked them, but they totally sucked in the rain. (go figure)

Cheers,
Phil

dukess1999 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 10:47 AM

To be completely pedantic, the 996R rotors will fit; for some obscure reason they have the standard offset.

ccolwell · #8 (**permalink**) 03-18-2007, 06:37 PM

Another vote for EBC HH. Worked well with the stock rotors, work well with the stock SBK rotors on it now.

Lazlo · #9 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FunkZ

I have a 95 900 CR that needs new front brakes. The rotors have been warped I think for awhile now, they pulse when applied and you can hear the rythmic drag when the wheel is turning. The original pads are shot and figured I would do everything at once.

I was looking at EBC HH pads and possibly picking up a set of mildly used stock rotors, would any 320mm Ducati rotor fit as long as it has the 6-hole mounting? The other option of course would be to buy new rotors but even looking at a low-cost rotor like EBC stainless it would be over $300 for the pair.

Looking for recommendations to get ready for this riding season without breaking the bank. Thanks!

I have a set of rotors if you are interested. Send me a PM

funonone · #10 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 02:30 AM

I have a beautiful set of round hole rotors and stock pads w/ 4k on them from a 99 Monster Chromo. email me macman320@hotmail.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunkZ

I have a 95 900 CR that needs new front brakes. The rotors have been warped I think for awhile now, they pulse when applied and you can hear the rythmic drag when the wheel is turning. The original pads are shot and figured I would do everything at once.

I was looking at EBC HH pads and possibly picking up a set of mildly used stock rotors, would any 320mm Ducati rotor fit as long as it has the 6-hole mounting? The other option of course would be to buy new rotors but even looking at a low-cost rotor like EBC stainless it would be over $300 for the pair.

Looking for recommendations to get ready for this riding season without breaking the bank. Thanks!

**NC Rick** · #11 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 01:59 PM

With Cast iron rotors you have to be careful with the pad selection. EBC HH are OK for cast rotors (If you like the EBC HH pads). I personally do not care for them at all. The EBC Kit pads were also the deal back in the day but are not up to the latest standard. I find the EBC HH pads non-linear and wooden feeling. We have been using and offering DP and Carbone Lorraine pads for a while now. The DP RDP race pads are very good. We prefer the CL pads in both SBK-5 for the street and track days and the race pads are awesome for the track, as good as the top of the line Vesras for less than half the price. The CL pads are compatible with iron rotors. The DP pads are NOT!

FunkZ · #12 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 04:21 PM

Lazlo, funonone - thanks for the offers. I believe (someone correct me if wrong) that the rotors that came on my CR were only "semi" floating compared to the SP's full-floating discs... and probably why they warped in the first place. So whatever I get to replace them I want to make sure are full-floating carriers. Funonone, those look exactly like the ones I have now. If I go with stock replacements I'd also like to get some with low miles, Tom has a set for sale but I think they've got more miles on them than mine! (I've got less than 11k on the odo) I know you're not supposed to use old pads on new rotors and I assume the reverse holds true, especially if the rotors show a lot of wear, and I don't think you can turn these things can you?

Norm · #13 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 05:24 PM

You can sand the rotors and/or pads to remove most of the grooves and then bed them in just as you would new ones. Someone sells replacement buttons to convert the stock rotors to floating or I can tell you how to do it for free if you have a large hammer & some balls.

funonone · #14 (**permalink**) 03-24-2007, 02:56 PM

I pulled this list from somewhere, it seems accurate and also a little old, I know more bikes could be added to it. hope it helps.......................
Aprilia
Blue Marlin (2002), EVT Mana (2002), RSV Mille (1998-2000), RSV Mille R (2000), RSV Mille SP (2000), SL Falco (2000)
Ducati
600M Monster (1994-2000), 600SS (1993), 620SI.E Monster (2001), 620SS (2003),748 Desmo Quatro (1994-1999), 748 (1998-1999), 748 E/S (2000-2002), 748 R (2001-2002), 750M Monster (1996), 750 Sport (2001), 750SS (1991-1998), 800SI.E Monster (2003), 800SS (2003), 800 Sport (2003), 851AA 8V Strada (1988-1989), 851 Replica (1988), 851 Sport Production (1990-1991), 851 Strada (1989), MH900E (2000), 900M Monster (1993-2000), 900SS (1991-1998), Monster S4 (2001-2002), 916 Strada (1994-1998), 916 Senna (1994-1997), 916 SPS (1998), ST4 (1999), ST2 944 (1997-1998), 996 S (1999-2001), 996 R (1999-2001), 1000 Monster SI.E (2003), 1000 Monster S4R (2003), SS1000 DS (2003)
Yamaha
YZF750R SP (1993-1995), FZ1000R (1987-1989), FZR1000 EXUP (1989-1995), FZS1000 Fazer (2000)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunkZ

I have a 95 900 CR that needs new front brakes. The rotors have been warped I think for awhile now, they pulse when applied and you can hear the rythmic drag when the wheel is turning. The original pads are shot and figured I would do everything at once.

I was looking at EBC HH pads and possibly picking up a set of mildly used stock rotors, would any 320mm Ducati rotor fit as long as it has the 6-hole mounting? The other option of course would be to buy new rotors but even looking at a low-cost rotor like EBC stainless it would be over $300 for the pair.

Looking for recommendations to get ready for this riding season without breaking the bank. Thanks!

FunkZ · #15 (**permalink**) 07-19-2008, 03:58 AM

Well I just snagged these rotors off eBay for what I thought was a decent price, hope they fit since they say for a Monster 620.

eBay Motors: Ducati Supersport Monster 620 Front Brake Rotors Discs (item 130238045822 end time Jul-18-08 09:19:51 PDT)

Look like some kind of aftermarket rotor?

Ignatz · #16 (**permalink**) 07-20-2008, 10:12 PM

My 94 CR's rotors warped early and my shop put used ones on from a wrecked Monster and they have been fine since. He also used the old pads from the Monster!....You should have new pads with those rotors.

FunkZ · #17 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 03:32 AM

Yeah I have EBC FA95HH's ready to go on with the new discs.

Desmomaniac · #18 (**permalink**) 07-26-2008, 10:53 PM

The EBC sintered on stainless rotors is/was a great combo. Back in the day I liked that, but when my rotors finally gave up the ghost I replaced them with the Braketech Axis. All I can say is whoa... easily nearly half the weight of the stockers.

Just a heads up that our older rides are starting to get a little worn. Check your calipers. I say this because if the piston seals are bad they'll cause the pads to drag on the rotors, heat up, and either warp or eventually seize. I recently bought some replacement calipers with pads for about 3 bills from Fred at Yoyodyne. I couldn't find a rebuild piston kit to save my life and didn't want to fork over the big money to upgrade at the time (she's gotten more than her fair share of my wallet lately).

Hedgehog · #19 (**permalink**) 07-29-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmomaniac

Just a heads up that our older rides are starting to get a little worn. Check your calipers. I say this because if the piston seals are bad they'll cause the pads to drag on the rotors, heat up, and either warp or eventually seize. I recently bought some replacement calipers with pads for about 3 bills from Fred at Yoyodyne. I couldn't find a rebuild piston kit to save my life and didn't want to fork over the big money to upgrade at the time.

I believe this is the caliper kit that I used on my '94 900CR a few years ago:
30/34 Piston/Seal kit for 4 Piston GP Caliper Brembo

I'm still using EBC Pro-Lite rotors and HH pads.

Desmomaniac · #20 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 12:28 AM

It was about year ago when I called. Fred said he didn't have/sell rebuild kits for those calipers anymore... so he sold me new ones, maybe he's found a source for 'em since. Memory is foggy, but I think the stock pistons are 32 & 36.