I'm in the process of pulling the motor out of the 748 to paint the frame and install the 853 kit. Any tips of pulling the motor? I'm assuming when pulling the lower rear motor bolt that the swingarm will roll back on me? Any tips would be great! Thanks!
Just make a woodenbox/engine support to put under the eninge, that will support the the engine/bike (I used som 2"x4", some long wooden screws).
(or by the ducati tool, its not that expensive)
Pull every thing of the bike (if you do not have the workshop manual, take some pictures of where all the wires go, it will be easyier on reassembly).
Drain the cooling system.
Remove radiator,and water hoses.
Remove exhaust.
Be shure to disconnet all eletrical wires to the motor, and remove them.
when you are shure that all wires are disconected, remove the swingarm bolt, (this can be i bit of a hazzle the ducati tool and a big hammer will get it out). Remove the two eninge bolts. If your motor sits stable in the
supporting box/crate, get a friend and lift the rest of the bike of the engine. (thats the way to get the motor in as well)
Now its nice to have some paddoc stands for the bike (since no side stand).
For the rest of the dismantling, just get the bike on som paddoc stands,
hang/support the frame from the celling(front and back)(just use 4 loading straps from the celling.
Get the wheels of the bike.
remove the the top steering clamp, and clipons,
renove the streeringhead scews (2) and (1) lock screw.
The forks and the lower trees(bearings etc) should be able to drop down, use a rubber mallet for some gentle persuasion.
Remove the subframe(if you havent removed it already),
undo to the topp shock mount, ease back the to swingarm spacers and remove the swingarm and shock assebly from the bike as one unit
then there shuld be a clean frame.
If you search the net for ducati workshop manual, you will probably find what you need.
I stripped and paintet the frame my 748R a couple of year ago, when I changed med 748R eninge for a 996 engine, just ordered a 853R bigbore kit for this years winter project (need som rpms).
Wait a minute, he only asked about pulling the engine. He needs to pull all that stuff off later, but to pull the engine, it's really not that complicated.
Having solid rearsets is really nice, because you can put jackstands up under the footpegs. This is really the best way to do it. Alternately, you can support the rear of the bike from above somehow with straps.
It's not an option to support the rear of the bike with the swingarm when removing the engine. What you want to do is hold it up like I said before, then put the rear stand through the hole and just let it set without actually putting the stand down as if you were holding the bike up. This kind of unloads the swingarm and makes it easier to pull out the pivot bolt. The swingarm sort of stays in place because it's supported by the stand just sitting there, and the shock is still in place holding it in.
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'01 MV F4S
'02 998 www.asmaracing.com www.desmosouthwest.com
I use the same method and in combination with a height adjustable bed it's real easy and no lifting aquired. Hoist the whole bike up real high, from above (the ceiling) strap the frame somewhere above the rear shock absorber approximately. Lower the bed until you unload the the swingarm and remove it, lower bed some more enough to put the engine stand under the engine. Now hoist it again til you unload the engine bolts and pull them out. Then just lower the bed fully and you end up having the frame hanging in the air and the engine in the enginestand on the bed on the floor.
I use the same method and in combination with a height adjustable bed it's real easy and no lifting required. Hoist the whole bike up real high, from above (the ceiling) strap the frame somewhere above the rear shock absorber approximately. Lower the bed until you unload the the swingarm and remove it, lower bed some more enough to put the engine stand under the engine. Now hoist it again til you unload the engine bolts and pull them out. Then just lower the bed fully and you end up having the frame hanging in the air and the engine in the enginestand on the bed on the floor.
Low profile hydraulic jack. Rear of bike on rear sets, front of bike on fork mounted stand (higher then normal front stand). Strip the bike of everything, all the way down to the frame (makes it way easier to deal with) Then, pull the 3 pins out and lower the motor on the hydraulic jack and roll it out from under the frame. I've done it by myself several times and with 3 people to help position the motor in place when re-installing. It helps to have the people so when the motor wants to fall off the jack, you've got somebody there to catch it, instead of it landing on your foot. LOL
Does anyone have any dimensions or a drawing of the Swingarm Tool?
I assume it is just a piece of steel that you use to hammer out the Swingarm pivot. I am going to do the 10 year teardown on my 748 this winter. I am going to have my father machine one up so I can use my favorite tool, the Hammer!!!
To get the pivot out, I just tapped on it with a deep socket that fits the end of the pivot without damaging the threads. Once it was out far enough I yanked it out from the other side.
I understand that sometimes these things are a real bastard to get out, but I haven't had this problem. If I was having that problem I suppose I would use something to free it up like WD-40 or some other penetrating oil to start with. Although I'm not sure that's the real issue... What is the real issue? Wear on the pivot from the bearings or something?
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'01 996 (ASMA #17, rebuild complete, runs, needs more stuff as it goes with Ducatis)
'01 MV F4S
'02 998 www.asmaracing.com www.desmosouthwest.com