One of the nice things about buying things from Shift-Tech or any of the other vendors here, is that you have a recourse if you are unhappy. We all have too much invested in the community to simply change the name of our shops to avoid negative publicity. Worst case scenario, you call someone up and get your money back.
one of the things i wished were different on this site. most others, if not all have a trader rating and i like it. it helps people see who is doing the right things and who is not. if there was one here i would have like 1000+ and 0- like on all my other sites.
from what i have heard this site and its sponsors are all great to deal with and i have yet to hear of any of them doing poorly. i also have dealt with most if not ALL of the sponors on this site and have nothing but great things to say about them and one of the reasons i still come here
you are absolutely correct....the downfall of ebay in my eyes is that you cant give a negitive feedback as a buyer without the fear of receaving one. And once feedback is left it is pretty much permanent.
sure Joe, Nsultan! don't be jealous, you are the looser ;( w. your attitude. Why don't you tell people how you try to bid on my items and I kick you hick butt right off!
try selling something sometime yourself and see how you can deal w. idiots like yourself bye bye
You can write now how you give up again, as you already wrote over and over, and wait till some uncle of yours fabricates another story
norbert, stop mucking around in this forum and prepare for that court date you got coming up.
Quote: "wait till some uncle of yours fabricates another story"
Correction everyone! make it 2 uncles!
and member STD996 by ebay id gimmmie "u keep f(*&(*n around and you'll find out! I'll post a reply shortly to your recent question you sent me thru one of my auctions just this week
To Junior Member acolyte you light a candle for yourself!
while u are at it! check out my recent auction feedbacks!
Correction everyone! make it 2 uncles! and member STD996 by ebay id gimmmie "u keep f(*&(*n around and you'll find out! I'll post a reply shortly to your recent question you sent me thru one of my auctions just this week
To Junior Member acolyteyou light a candle for yourself!
while u are at it! check out my recent auction feedbacks!
Dude, you are delusional as the day is long. The facts are the facts, and no matter what name you use, you are still responsible for your own actions. You obviously owe alot more people than I estimated, and based on your complete ignorance of reality, you're gonna be forced to change the way you do business.
Keep up the great quotes, you're really solidifying your image within the motorcycle community. You would only be helping me shed light on your lack of character if you post any of the questions I sent you, but please feel free to do so.
ok, even you know my reply I sent you My LISTING YOU POSTED A QUESTION just last week, when you showed your curiosity about where I am after posting the listing you supposeddly won from me? which is NOT even my listing! You posted someones elses AUCTION! man it it people like you who start wars (not to give you too much credit to like YOU! / just go back
to your ms FORUM w. whatever your sickassbike is Daniel Tapia! which I hope does NOT represent the motorcycle community! eventhough you might be convinced it does you egotistical maniac and I am NOT your DUDE! - NUMNUTS, whatever you're smoking !
Last edited by motochristo; 02-21-2008 at 01:54 AM.
Reason: .....can't believe I am even waisting my time w. this gossiping Hag !
How about a list of where to buy and not to get ripped off
I second that! Start a list of preferred vendors. The amount of shady vendors is hard to keep track of since they change names every time they get caught.
you are absolutely correct....the downfall of ebay in my eyes is that you cant give a negitive feedback as a buyer without the fear of receaving one. And once feedback is left it is pretty much permanent.
I for one is a victim of this. The only thing I can think of that would be the buyers fault is if the payment is not sent on time or not at all. I have learned this the hard way as I got my first negative feedback on Ebay a while back only because I left the seller negative feedback for not receiving the item. It was a $24 mistake.
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all the best with preffered sellers list as per above
yes, there are some tough ebay sellers as there are demanding buyers!
- guess, good thing to keep in mind is "not to jump the gun!" so as not to 'Slip and Trip and cut your lip' and since its obvious that no one likes to get rolled over, make sure and double check before posting ...anything!
to reinerate, it is provided by ebay to track any changes in seller or buyer id, not only w. an icon by the id for a month following the change but also provides anyones past id change a direct link to their new one by typing it in using their advanced search.
I second that! Start a list of preferred vendors. The amount of shady vendors is hard to keep track of since they change names every time they get caught.
In the case of Norbert Erlec, he has maintained several Ebay id's for the past 7+ years, and as he builds up too many negative feedbacks - he just resumes use of the one that he left idle while the others went sour.
It's usually a more well thought out practice by others, but in Motochristos case, he has never changed his format of listings at all. If you look at any of his auctions, regardless of what ID he is using, they ALL have the exact same photo layout, poor photo quality and all with filters to keep out the details, and all the exact same font and writing style. It's all cut and paste, even to the point of using the same layout where photos are now X's rather than work on editing the listing format.
And in every reply he's given in emails, forums, or drunken phone calls: He NEVER addresses the real issues or answers any question with facts.
As far as knowing who the bad sellers are, just look to see if Ebay or Paypal provide any buyer protection at all. In the "see how you are protected" field, if it tells you to look elsewhere, that usually means the seller does not have a good rating or they have claims against them. In which case, you'd do better to shop from someone else.
you see by the input of DT996 supposedly abbr. for Daniel Tapia e-bay's GIMMMIE He just can't help behaving like a NUMNUTS. Not even the .ms forum (which stands for multiple sclerosis) where he is a senior member takes him seriously!
Don't let his jealousy discourage you from buying online, as long as you practice common sense and adhere to the listings posted policies* which you agree to with your binding bid, which he still cannot face and blames others for it.
*anyone whom ever used paypal or a credit card for purchase has the same buyer protection regardless what's posted!
How about a list of where to buy and not to get ripped off
Exactly my point - All will benefit from a list of vendors we can trust. If anyone chooses to test the grounds with other sellers it's at personal risk and with the knowledge "you may get ripped off". It is an unfortunate fact that there are enough shaky vendors...
Additionally. why don't you link to your real feedback page? As a seller!
It's plainly obvious to anyone with more then your one single grey cell, that virtually all your feedback is gained as a buyer...
Your real score is 16 positive, minus 2 you gave yourself, minus 2 negs
Equals what motoboy..? wow 10... GREAT seller.... not...
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yes, wow you can count! Ten, that't 10 more than YOU! as a seller, thanks for clarifying the auction which is NOT mine!
Hear Hear, here goes Neil <------ back from some forgotten village in Norway ) presenting Neil the one whom started this whole gossiping mess!
READ THE AUCTION before you BID!
What is plainly obvious to everyone is that you did not learn how read yet! above quote: "practice common sense and adhere to the listings posted policies* which you agree to with your binding bid, which he still cannot face and blames others for it."
Maybe its about time you learned how? being 41years old - it will save you and us all a lot of headache! Anyway, I suggest you buy from this hick and ask for a list of vendors you can trust since he seems to know it all . That is all the time I have to waist for today
Last edited by motochristo; 11-22-2007 at 05:45 AM.
Reason: I know VALID does not mean anything to you,and NUMNUTS STD996 Daniel Tapia whom persists with made up auction he won from me!
One thing that needs to be said regarding this whole sordid tale:
With carbon fiber, you get what you pay for. The reputable suppliers out there charge more because the molding process and setup are more involved and require more time. If you can find fenders, tanks, ariboxes, etc. for hundreds less on ebay, you are taking your chances with product reliability and quality control. They cost less for a reason. It does not excuse what happened to these buyers, but does anyone else wonder why we all pay top dollar for arguably the most expensive bikes on the market (Ducati), but then scour the globe and internet in an effort to save $25 on a carbon fender?
One thing that needs to be said regarding this whole sordid tale:
With carbon fiber, you get what you pay for. The reputable suppliers out there charge more because the molding process and setup are more involved and require more time. If you can find fenders, tanks, ariboxes, etc. for hundreds less on ebay, you are taking your chances with product reliability and quality control. They cost less for a reason. It does not excuse what happened to these buyers, but does anyone else wonder why we all pay top dollar for arguably the most expensive bikes on the market (Ducati), but then scour the globe and internet in an effort to save $25 on a carbon fender?
Phil
sorry Phil, i disagree with you there man.
The reason Ducati people pay more for carbon parts is because the people selling them stuff know the owners want high end and they over charge a small premium for that want.
anything ducati costs more, look and see. this is one of the reasons i started to make duke parts to begin with, they get bent over on almost everything. carbon and exhausts are almost always double their japanese counterparts.
you will to a certain extent get what you pay for but not always. i for example can make a part for less as my overhead is less than say a larger company but my product might not be less of a quality product
"Exercise restraint and discipline, only responding to posts from legit customers and those with constructive positive intent, you will find that the handgrenades explode harmlessly. You have many satisfied customers who are happy to have the parts you've made. My suggestion to you is keep making good parts, keep getting more customers, take care of them and let them speak for you."
Now I know this thread is about Blacklisting BAD sellers on Ebay (or anywhere else for that matter), but we pretty much have only one solid answer as to who belongs on this list: Norbert.
Like I've stated from the beginning, he has not answered a single question with facts, he has avoided the real issue, and he's spent all his time slinging insults and threats without ever stating some real evidence to make anyone think anything good about him.
Every one of his replies should stand as a guide on what to look for when dealing with an unscrupulous seller. If you ask the seller a question, and they dance around it without addressing your actual concern, or they throw out a bunch of useless info, they are definitely to be avoided.
and take a look at what you wrote in your Avivpo listing:
Return policy details:We try to describe items as honestly and accurately as possible. If you are not satisfied or the part doesn't fit your bike, we will allow a return with refund minus shipping charges and Ebay fees. Please contact us before shipping an item back to us.
Norbert,
You lost a claim to me for selling a defective tank under the Avivpo id (Ebay/Paypal terms: significantly not as described). I returned that tank to you in order to get my refund. You have not paid that claim, and have since sold the same tank on Ebay under the Motochristo id, with photos taken on the same rooftop of your apartment in New York, you MORON. You don't really believe you can get away with this Illegal activity do you Norbert?
If you want people to think you're anything but someone who lives in a padded room with access to a PC, you may want to answer ANY of the questions asked here - and answer the questions with facts instead of a bunch of used car salesman tactics and insults. And you should probably start thinking about hiring a lawyer.
bye bye
like YOU! / just go back
all the best with preffered sellers list as per above
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