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Old 11-14-2006, 03:20 PM
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Default What is a "reasonable" charge for replacing belts on a 998..Just belts replacemnt

My 998 now has 7000 miles and I decided not to change the belts at around 6K with the regular 6K service. Its almost winter time and I am thinking of dropping it off for new tires and belts replacment. The inservice date was Aug 2002 so the bike is a little over 4 years old and I think its safe to get the belts replaced now.
What do you guys think.
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Mate, to be honest, not changing 50$ belts regularly is a very stupid decision to make. Belts are changed in 30 mins and belts themselves cost around 50 bucks I think.

Did you ever see an engine being crushed by a broken belt? No? Maybe someone should show you a picture

Anyway, go for it and get it changed.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:45 PM
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Dude:

Have you ever seen what the dealership charges to replace belts.
Not all of us are able/skillful enough to change belts ourselves.
I do agree, that at whatever cost, it was a dumb gamble.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:54 PM
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I have a feeling you'll get soaked for a couple hundred bucks plus the cost of the belts.

And if that doesn't motivate you to learn how to do it yourself, I don't know what will.

Dealerships see my bikes for tire changes only, just because I hate doing it.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:59 PM
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Default Belts....

From S8S's site, belts list at $75 so a 1 hour charge and i'm guessing plus the cost of the belts (about $173 a set for OEM per www.desmotimes.com)

http://www.section8superbike.com/ser...48/916/996/998

i think something to keep in mind is that they are rubber and like a serpentine belt in a car, time and heat cycling tend to not be friendly towards it. You made out alright with it not breaking (knock on wood) so have the work done and remember for next time

hope this helps
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:07 PM
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4 years I'd says it's "safe to get the belts replaced now"
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:09 PM
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Where are you located, maybe there is a 'zilla member around who would lend a hand in changing them so you'd save some money.
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:31 PM
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that woud lbe great..not only to save money but more importanlty learn how to do it..

I am in Raleigh, NC
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:49 PM
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silly, by themselves it costs more, but they could have been put on for free during a valve service
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I have a feeling you'll get soaked for a couple hundred bucks plus the cost of the belts.

And if that doesn't motivate you to learn how to do it yourself, I don't know what will.

Dealerships see my bikes for tire changes only, just because I hate doing it.
Ditto, but I don't have a tire machine, or the cones that will fit the MV wheel.

Belts are pretty darn easy to do, even if you don't have that cute pulley holding tool. Just takes a few trys to get it right.

I'm not buying that you need to use that special tension tool every time either. I think it can be done by feel reasonbly well enough if you know what you're doing. I was shown how by an experienced person.
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Ditto, but I don't have a tire machine, or the cones that will fit the MV wheel.

Belts are pretty darn easy to do, even if you don't have that cute pulley holding tool. Just takes a few trys to get it right.

I'm not buying that you need to use that special tension tool every time either. I think it can be done by feel reasonbly well enough if you know what you're doing. I was shown how by an experienced person.
We checked the allen key trick with the Ducati tool a few weeks ago and it was amazingly close. That's all I'm saying about that...

So anybody near Raleigh that can help a bit??
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:12 PM
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The only problem that no one has mentioned is Testastretta is different than the old motors. They use a different tool to set the tension (works on frequency of the belt) and the hex key isn't right either. I talked to a Ducati tech who said he wasn't a believer in the training when shown the new tool. They said "do you think you can adjust them without it?" he said he knew he could, been doing it for years. After he was done they checked his work with the frequency tool and he said he wasn't even close. He told me he became a believer that day. If it was my bike, I would strip the whole thing down to exposed belts, I mean ready to be removed. Haul it to the shop (after they have confirmed they have the right belts in stock ) and have them put on. Won't take the guy a few minutes and you'll be charged for an hour minimum. Take it home and put it back together.
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Anyone know where you can get a belt tension frequency tool for a reasonable amount of money? All you really need is something to tell you what frequency the sound is.

I know there was a guy with an ST that did it with his digital camera microphone & his laptop to analyize the frequency.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:48 PM
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13 posts and only 1 answer to his question. i'm thinking 400 bucks,the tesi belts are pricey and a couple hours labour
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Anyone know where you can get a belt tension frequency tool for a reasonable amount of money? All you really need is something to tell you what frequency the sound is.

I know there was a guy with an ST that did it with his digital camera microphone & his laptop to analyize the frequency.
Ebay is a good place for a frequency tool. I bought one there. This one ends fairly soon:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BrecoFlex-SMT-Un...QQcmdZViewItem

Otherwise, you could go for the Clavis meter used by the factory Ducati WSB team:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Clavis-Type-5-Ha...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:55 PM
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you get charged one hour ...well when you could.....at sect 8-

the belts are at least 60 each for the Testastrettas

oh yea...and good luck getting a dealer to "throw in the belt change" when checking Valve clearances

JD Horde did right by me now if he would only dump some high comps in for free
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Old 11-15-2006, 10:39 PM
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I'm not sure how much the cost is. I have always done it myself. If you are reasonably intelligent. You can with the help of LT Snyders manual. Do the Valves and belts yourself. Regular tools are all that is required. So metric sockets, wrenches and allens and some feeler gauges and your ready to go. A good torque wrench is also a must. The manual has pics and the torque specs. Pretty much walks you through it. If you get the manual and read it through then you can decide weather your comfortable with doing it. It also has lots of other usefull info in it. After the first time you do it you will wonder what all the fuss is about. Take your time don't rush and double check everything you do. This board is also very helpfull if you run into any problems. If I lived closer I would lend a hand and walk you through it. Ken.
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..If it was my bike, I would strip the whole thing down to exposed belts, I mean ready to be removed. Haul it to the shop (after they have confirmed they have the right belts in stock ) and have them put on. Won't take the guy a few minutes and you'll be charged for an hour minimum. Take it home and put it back together.
Ditto, when I strip a SBK down for a belt change most of the time is spent removing the parts just to access the belts. Then there is the time spent putting it back together. It goes somewhat quickly when you do it reguarly, but at $75/hour that's money coming out of your pocket

Darn, I just ordered belts for mine and I can't remember how much they were. I think that I payed somewhere between $80 and $90/belt last winter for the belts...the testa belts are more expensive than the desmo belts.

After 4 years you should seriously change the belts, failed belts make for an expensive fix...I can post pics if you'd like...LOL Strip the bike and take it to the dealer...just like P said, 1-hour tops for labor plus the cost of the belts...

Let us know how it works out
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:17 AM
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Well, if you don't change them and one snaps I have a spare 998 motor for sale
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I paid $320 australian dollars for the dealer to do mine. I though it was pretty cheap considering the tensioning would be spot on and the work is garunteed.
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