ok, quick question: what needs to be adjusted after termi install?

what needs to be adjusted after the termi half system intall?

i know the TPS sensor needs to be reset/adjusted, but what else?

Thanks

might not hurt to have it chipped - run on a dyno and the fuel-air mixture adjusted.

the chip is installed.

i'm not asking about extras, but the min. requirement..

i had my dealer reset my tps (was charged for it), it was fine (didn't stall out/AFR was nice) for about 2 weeks, but then same thing. its there now, but they are saying that there are other things that need to be adjusted besides the TPS, but IMO they are just trying to get me to pay for more stuff instead of fixing what they didn't fix the first time..

Thanks

P.S. they said it needs to have the COs adjusted and some other stuff.

i found it necessary to adjust my wallet after a termignoni install.

I'm not a Duc machanic by any stretch but I'm shocked if they did not set the CO when they were in there with the TPS. My understanding is that the CO and TB sync have to be done together and I would think that TPS resets/trims would trigger at least a check of the sync/CO.

That said.. if they knew a system and new ECU where put in why in the world would they not check/adjust CO. Seems totally intuitive to me (again.. I'm no a professional mechanic).

What say ye gurus?

Here is a quick hack version of what to do. I did this off the top of my head so there may be small gaps I am planning on doing a tutorial with pictures and so on and posting it on our site, but thats a month off or so because I am waiting for our new web site to be done.
Injection set up:

remove tank and side panels

remove access plugs on the LH side of the airbox (there are two)

Loosen the screws holding the airbox lid on so you can pry open the back of the airbox about 1/2"

Once the airbox is pried open you will be able to see the throttle linkage on the rear throttle body.

There is a 4mm allen set screw for idle speed that points upward toward the LH lower corner on the top of the airbox. Drill a hole so you can adjust this.

Set the air bypass screws all the way in.

Connect vacume balancing guage to the ports on the intakes.

Start motor (it won't want to idle)

Balance TB's with the balance linkage inside the big access port in the airbox.

Set the bypass screws at 3/4 of a turn out.

The bike should be idling at about 1200rpm's

Shut the motor off

Connect the Mathesis to read TPS setting

Back off the idle setting untill there is a gap between the set screw and the tab that it effects (zero idle preload)

What does the TPS read? If it reads zero you will need to wind in the set screw till it treads 2.8+ deg and then re-set the TPS. Now wind the idle back out again.

So now you have a TPS reading of .5+ or so (as long as it's above zero). And the set screw is not touching the linkage.

Take whatever the TPS reading is and add 2.3deg. So if it read .5 and you add 2.3 you come up with 2.8. Wind the set screw in till it reads 2.8deg. Then re-set the TPS. It will ow be assigned a value of 2.3 and you actualy have 2.3 deg on the trottle blades.

Set the trimmer at +20 (this is a starting point for CO's)

Start bike

Play with the air screws till the idle is 1200RPM (the screws should never be more than 1 1/4 turns out).

Recheck balance, TPS setting, CO's

I think this covers it, does it make sense?

Now say :

THANK'S JASON

i doubt i could go there with a set of directions telling them how/what to do... if i had the mathesis, i'd be set..

got the bike back though, didn't charge me anything (credit to them on that, i'd expect them to try and make another buck off me). we'll see if the stalling comes back...

thanks

Cool. Glad they did not stiff you on an upcharge.. Wow, that's a lot of work to set and trim these things. Is that just for 999's or does that proceedure apply to 998's too? I seem to recall that the early TStrettas had TPS pots that could be dialed manually.

Weird.. They jacked up the IDLE to about 1200, so it idles higher than normal now.

Bike still WANTS to stall out, and for an instant does, but I guess because the idle is so high it just kicks back up and never actually dies...

While IMO this isn't the right way to fix it (jack up the idle), it seems to keep the bike from stalling... the power seems a little down, so maybe they leaned it out too much or something.

I might take it back to them along with what jason said, but methinks they will REALLY dislike a customer bringing them directions on how to do something.

Man, I hate this. I'm used to fixing stuff on my own and never dealing with the dealer for this exact reason - service is sucky and things don't get done right.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spawn_x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weird.. They jacked up the IDLE to about 1200, so it idles higher than normal now.

Bike still WANTS to stall out, and for an instant does, but I guess because the idle is so high it just kicks back up and never actually dies...

While IMO this isn't the right way to fix it (jack up the idle), it seems to keep the bike from stalling... the power seems a little down, so maybe they leaned it out too much or something.

I might take it back to them along with what jason said, but methinks they will REALLY dislike a customer bringing them directions on how to do something.

Man, I hate this. I'm used to fixing stuff on my own and never dealing with the dealer for this exact reason - service is sucky and things don't get done right.

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We set all of ours at 1200, but they don't stall.

I'm guessing they didn't baseline the throttle angle before re-setting.

If they have a tech who is worth anything he will jump at the chance to have a solution to the problem

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The 998 is kind of a hybrid set up. You get the 996 style pot with the 5.9 ECU. They are easier to set up becuase you just set the pot at 150mv with the throttle blades closed, instaed of doing all the re-set gymnastics of the 749/999.