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Old 12-18-2004, 01:08 AM
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Default Lightweight rims

Do you guys know which rims are the lightest for the 996? Are they durable as well? I am leaning towards Marchesinis but don't know if they are the best value. I am not considering carbon rims right now.

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Old 12-18-2004, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (Landshark92)

I just went through this for my 998.

Marchesini = good choice. 10 spoke mag. wheels are what I ordered.

PVM also makes some nice wheels.

http://www.pvm.de/w/e/mo/fm/products.html

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Old 12-18-2004, 01:31 AM
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I wish I could have the BSTs...
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Old 12-18-2004, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: (NC Rick)

BST CF wheels are the ultimate.

But... it seems one camp thinks that way, and the other camp likens them to time bombs.

As was stated in another thread.... it sure would be cool to see some FACTUAL data on both CF and mag. wheels failure/defect rates.
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Old 12-18-2004, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (Mental998)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mental998 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just went through this for my 998.

Marchesini = good choice. 10 spoke mag. wheels are what I ordered.



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damn u sure the magnesiums arent gonna get dented, i know few road racer say that they dent real easy .
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Old 12-18-2004, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (Landshark92)

Just some other perspective on wheels. I have a friend who makes carbon fiber tubs for CART race cars. He does repair and custom carbon fiber work, as well as military contracts in composites. He knows what he is talking about. He owned and raced a CART car for a number of years. When asked about carbon fiber wheels his opinion was to stay away from carbon fiber wheels, far away. Not exactly a quote, but close "Carbon fiber is not meant to be used for wheels". Seems to make sense. Formula 1, and Moto GP, both cost no object activities see no carbon fiber wheels (F1) or very, very limited (Moto GP).
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Old 12-18-2004, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (duc1036)

not sure how this happend or what not. But pictures can speak for themselves. Now I've sold BST's before and still do and Currently have a set on my Gixxer 1k.

But maybe someone on this board might have seen this happen can add more info.






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Old 12-18-2004, 04:04 PM
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The wheels are manufactured in a ISO2002 facility certified by TUV, but are themselves not TUV certified, apparently due to a lack of carbon fiver test protocol by the TUV. Whether this is true or not, I don't know.

Here's some of the info I found... http://www.ram.mc/wheels/BST/t...o.htm
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Old 12-18-2004, 04:47 PM
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I am cured. Forged aluminum baby :-)
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Old 12-18-2004, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: (NC Rick)

FYI, my mags have bent before too, granted on the street but still. Either way i'd still ride the BST's as I do on the gixxer 1k.
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Old 12-18-2004, 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NC Rick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am cured. Forged aluminum baby :-)</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup me too!
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Old 12-18-2004, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: (killer bee)

I'd be curious to know what the heck that guy hit and what caused the crash that blew apart his bike/wheels like that... Obviously some serious front-end impact somewhere in there, given the way the forks are bent and twisted... and at some point, with enough force, ANYTHING that you make parts/wheels/etc. out of will break.
Mental's factory cast aluminum wheels on 'Mental 1', for example, didn't fare too well when the front hit the guardrail. Doubt carbon or mag woulda done any worse.
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Old 12-18-2004, 07:35 PM
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There is truth in that, Looking at a lot of the nwe bikes at the junk yard, most that hit anything have the rims still round with no spokes. That is stock Jap wheels. The post infered that the wreck was caused by the wheel not the other way around. I still liike seeing one part bent up than many. That set-up in the photo looks hard to ride!
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Old 12-18-2004, 08:40 PM
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I have seen a BST front "melt" and deform because a set of tire warmers didn't cycle correctly and overheated. The tire lost pressure and de-beaded at 140mph.
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NC Rick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am cured. Forged aluminum baby :-)</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahahahaha DITTO!!!!!
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (killer bee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killer bee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn u sure the magnesiums arent gonna get dented, i know few road racer say that they dent real easy .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had a set of cast Marchesini magnesium wheels for eight years and when I sold them they were as true as the day I bought them. They endured tens of thousands of miles, countless wheelies (one that was a slam from a wheelie gone wrong ),Illinois potholes, and track days too. I lost track how many sets of tires had been mounted. Never had a crack, leak, dent, or otherwise. I now have a set of ten spoke forged magesiums on the way. This was one of the few changes that even a regular rider (me) could tell a difference. I had to change my suspension settings after I put them on, it made that big of a difference. I personally wouldn't have a CF wheel if you gave it too me, the thought of going 100+ mph and counting on something that is glued together to keep me alive doesn't give me a warm fuzzy. For me the arguement is moot, I won't use them, I guess it doesn't matter then that they are also phuckin ugly.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (Phil 998)

I can't thank you guys enough for this post. I was seriously about to drop 3G's for Carbon Fiber wheels until this thread.

Now I think I'll go with the Marchesini Mags. I never knew that the Carbon Hubs were "Glued" on. That's crazy.

And it's true. You never see factory race teams use them. Just Red Bull Yamaha back in the day when Haga raced for them in Moto GP. Other than that, I can't recall any other race team using them.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:28 PM
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check with Martin at Motowheels for more information before you make an opinion. At least give him an opportunity to respond.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Lightweight rims (Turbo329)

Also check Marvic cast Mg's they're about the same weight (a few ounces more) as the Marchesini forged Mg. Look for some PVM's too.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: (jpuck91)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpuck91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd be curious to know what the heck that guy hit and what caused the crash that blew apart his bike/wheels like that... Obviously some serious front-end impact somewhere in there, given the way the forks are bent and twisted... and at some point, with enough force, ANYTHING that you make parts/wheels/etc. out of will break.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Given that there seems to be DIRT in the end of the exhaust pipes, there was prolly a BIG hit on the rear of the bike - enough to crack any rim (let alone CF).
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