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Old 07-28-2004, 01:52 PM
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Default Oil change question for 02 998.

Can anyone please give me some tips on changing my oil on my 02 998. The dealer wanted to charge me $125.00. They stated that there is a screen that needs to be remove and cleaned. They also stated the inportance of re-installing the screen properly. For 125.00 I'm willing to do this on my own if you guys have any tips for me??? Does anyone have Pics of this process? Any special tools needed for this? As always I thank you guys!
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Old 07-28-2004, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (rwolfenb)

well, there is a screen that needs to be romoved, and it is easy as hell to strip the drain plug.

I could explain it in great detail here, but I learned about conservation of words in High School English, so you should just checkk out the Ducati Suite tutorial.
http://www.ducatisuite.com/oilchange.html

(there is a search button up at the top right...BTW)
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Old 07-28-2004, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (angrydave)

Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.
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Old 07-28-2004, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (rwolfenb)

I looked at the posted site and there are a few things you need to know yet. The 14mm allen wrench is the top of the spark plug wrench in your tool kit that came with the bike. If it's never had the oil changed the screen and the screen cap may be really tight. I take my screen and wash it in the sink with hot water a tooth brush and lots of soap and then air dry it. On a 998 you will probably find a fair amount of gray gloop strings on the screen, no problem just extra case sealant that oozed out during assembly. Torque the screen, cap and drain plug to 33 lb. of torque. I reuse the crush washers, didn't use to, but I do now and never had one leak yet. I like that the dealer tried using boogy man scare tactics on proper installation of the screen. It screws into the hole and then you tighten it. I'd pay money to see someone install it incorrectly, it only goes in one way.
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (rwolfenb)

Yup, what Phil said. You can't screw it up so go for it. $125... Yeah right.

I had the screen out on mine at 600 miles. Just a few bits of gasket sealer were present. I pulled it again at 8000 and it was perfectly clean. Be sure the o ring from the filter is not stuck to the engine. Fill the new filter with oil before you put it on.

I'll give you the discounted rate of $90. Yeah right...
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Old Fart)

Thanks guys, I'm off to Sears to get that tourque wrench!
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Phil 998)


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil 998 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Torque the screen, cap and drain plug to 33 lb. of torque..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You guys really torque your drain plugs?

I'm impressed...

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Old 07-28-2004, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (infoage1)

If you go to Ducati.com and click on tech data in the Ducati service section, it lists main torque figures for the engine. There are only a few given and the drain plug is one of them. Since it takes all of five seconds, I guess I don't see why you wouldn't.
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Phil 998)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil 998 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I reuse the crush washers...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The main torque figures for the engine given by Ducati.com in the tech data in the Ducati service section, don't give appear to give a torque value for used crush washers...



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Old 07-28-2004, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (infoage1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infoage1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The main torque figures for the engine given by Ducati.com in the tech data in the Ducati service section, don't give appear to give a torque value for used crush washers...



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And since they don't leak, your point is.......
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Phil 998)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil 998 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And since they don't leak, your point is....... </TD></TR></TABLE>

No point, really. Just that there appears to be a remarkable coincidence. I reuse my crush washers, do not torque my drain plug, and it doesn't leak either....

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Old 07-28-2004, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (infoage1)

I am not one of those anal nuts that uses a torque wrench on every fastener. It's just that an aluminum case with a brass plug and aluminum washer......I could see if I got a little heavy handed I would be screwed. So I guess I use a torque wrench on the plug out of fear as much as anything.
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Phil 998)

That's cool. I was just kidding. Really, I was impressed. Sometimes, "those anal nuts that uses a torque wrench on every fastener" make me feel guilty.

ps: I do use a torque wrench on my cylinder-head nuts...

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Old 07-28-2004, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (rwolfenb)

Get an aftermarket hex head drain plug. They don't strip out as easy as the allen head.

http://www.motowheels.com/ital...Parts
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (moto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get an aftermarket hex head drain plug. They don't strip out as easy as the allen head.

http://www.motowheels.com/ital...Parts</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never stripped one out, my concern has always been the threads in the case.
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Phil 998)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil 998 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I looked at the posted site and there are a few things you need to know yet. The 14mm allen wrench is the top of the spark plug wrench in your tool kit that came with the bike. If it's never had the oil changed the screen and the screen cap may be really tight. I take my screen and wash it in the sink with hot water a tooth brush and lots of soap and then air dry it. On a 998 you will probably find a fair amount of gray gloop strings on the screen, no problem just extra case sealant that oozed out during assembly. Torque the screen, cap and drain plug to 33 lb. of torque. I reuse the crush washers, didn't use to, but I do now and never had one leak yet. I like that the dealer tried using boogy man scare tactics on proper installation of the screen. It screws into the hole and then you tighten it. I'd pay money to see someone install it incorrectly, it only goes in one way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

looks like my '01 748 is the exact same way. to bad the tool that comes in the kit is a piece of garbage and the spark plug end started getting rounded off trying to remove that screen. now i have to try and find a 14mm allen socket that will fit through that hole. sigh.
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Vcook)

Autozone.com has a 3 pc socket hex set for about $8...Shipped it's somewhere around $12

http://www.autozone.com/servle...Etrue
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Tornado-rider)

rwolfenb,

You may want to invest in a desmotimes manual.

http://www.desmotimes.com
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Old 04-25-2005, 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tornado-rider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Autozone.com has a 3 pc socket hex set for about $8...Shipped it's somewhere around $12

http://www.autozone.com/servle...Etrue</TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought they might have it, though I searched and searched their site to no avail. you're my new hero.
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Old 04-25-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Oil change question for 02 998. (Vcook)

Yeah, I get that alot.

Glad I could help!
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