Single injector mod for S4R?

Thinking of buying an S4R. Coming from superbikes, most people feel the "Single Injector Mod" (FIM Chip) is a great thing.
Are people doing this with the S4R?

not sure about the s4r, but my s4 is single injected(per cylinder) stock and has a 5.9 ECU(so does the R). No chips for the 5.9 ECU. I've never owned a sbk so I could be totally off base of what your are asking. Hope it helps though

s4R also uses the 5.9ECU but ultimap has the U59 replacement ECU. the s4R is listed as one of the bikes it's available for so a single-injector map might be doable by special request? i'd contact BCM (ultimap dealer) or the gang at ultimap directly!

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done at the factory. the only dual injector 996 are the 996 and 996sps. both the st4s and s4r are single.

Great information! Thanks for the input!

I really like the Arrow pipes for the S4R, so on that note I will definately look into the U59 replacement ECU to match up with it. Thanks!
Now....anyone have any input on the U59 verses a custom mapped PowerCommander?

A FIM will always be better as long as you have some one that can tune it for you. The PC3 is good as every one can tune it and that makes life more easy but the result will not be as good as I FIM ECU. Adding a PC3 is like adding salt to food thet has to much sugar. It helps but it will never take away the original problem. FIM:s are normaly tuned with fuel and ignition for a specific setup with a more optimized ignition for the setup than the original ECU and due to that it will run better. I am running PC3 only because I can tune it my self. The same day as FIM will include tuning software with the ECU I will buy a FIM, Until then I will use PC3.

Jocke.............

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Amen to that!

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The less people who buy them then the less willing tuners will be to get the appropriate software. So its a damned if you do damned if you dont. Personally Ill stick with the FIM unit on my 800 Monster, thank you very much.

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The less people who buy them then the less willing tuners will be to get the appropriate software. So its a damned if you do damned if you dont. Personally Ill stick with the FIM unit on my 800 Monster, thank you very much. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you dont understand my point. My bike is continiously changing. I want to have the posibility to do what I want with it. I want to do my tunung my self. That is the reason for the PC3. I always said that FIM is a bettter product but I want to tune my self so I have a PC3.

Jocke.........

No I understood your point exactly, I dont think you understood mine. Its simple economics. If something becomes popular it becomes easier to get. If no one decides that its worth the trouble because everyone decides it, then its not worth the effort for many people to get the wanted product.

If you just want to be able to tinker yourself then by all means get a PC, I will take mine in and get it done by someone who can show me on a dyno that Ive done good or bad. I will continue to use the same one even though it means a 4 day trip for me, its worth it for the intended result. Ive just seen too many butt dynos proven to be wrong.

I'd love a FIM ECU John but it's just not realistic for FIM to think we are going to drive across the US to get it tuned. They should make the investment in their company and set someone up on the west coast to tune these babies. Kind of weird that they haven't yet. Maybe you!

That would be the dream HB. To have someone here in SoCal we could trust to do that job would be ideal, but the one guy who was promising got hired by Ducati Corse in Italy. Tom (Infoage) talked to him at great length and it sounded like he might be the guy, but then he went racing. I just trust Doug Lofgren to do my tuning and Im going back this spring to race at BIR so I can kill 2 birds with one trip. As of now Ive actually turned wreenchs on the Monster to get the 800 engine in it and the ECU is boxed and going to Doug to get an 800 map put in it. Then it'll get tuned when it goes back.

Im not saying that there are no competent tuner is SoCal, there are. I just have my preferance and many others from the West side of the country do as well. Just ask GaryM, Art Ramos and Matt Smith to name a few.
To say its FIMs fault is unfair, its the FIM dealers who have the capability to do this that are letting us down. It seems to be easier for them to get a chip or ECU from Duane and just sell it over the counter, and then not have to worry about it any more. What we need is more dealers like Dave R (DucSea) or Jason (Sect8) guys who actually give a rats ass about how motorcycles run and not try to tell us that it'll be really close with this.

Im done ranting (mostly cuz Im out of beer)

Since this was my thread I am going to chime in here....

FIM has a better and more beneficial product for Ducati's, hands down. The day PC includes an ignition map the tables will turn. The problem really lies in the lack of user friendly features. People have been jetting their own motorcycles for decades. Dirt riders still do. With the as of late popularity of wide band O2 sensors, the above average garage mechanic that understands the physics and chemistry behind the combustion engine can quite possibly acheive a very good tune via adjusting fuel maps with a laptop in their garage. Just takes a little understanding of the technology. I think the PowerCommander has proved this, as a lot of the user created maps are very well put-together.
Case-in-point. I have a 2002 748S. I also have an eeprom burner courtesy of my employer. A little google action and I found ECUEDIT. Next thing I knew I was building my own wide band O2 sensor courtesy of a pcb and kit purchased through diy-wb.com. Granted I have an electronics background and am a programmer, but quite honestly (unbiased here) the fundamentals involved in the afformentioned are quite basic. To make a long story short, thanks to some data logging and local dyno time I have a very very good map for my bike. I burned 15 chips and built a wide band O2 sensor for less than an FIM chip. Hell I even compensated the rear cylinder fuel map! Did I mention I could advance and retard my ignition? I picked up a descent amount of horsepower and torque, but more importantly my bikes throttle response and rideablity have been tremendously increased. The mechanics in the situation were minimal; sync the tb, zero the tps, ect. It was the understanding of the the combustable engine and the importance of stoichiometric readings. Its all out there on the internet for free. What did I gain from not going with the PC? I adjusted my spark map! How easy it was, and it made a difference.

Point is, I cant beleive that FIM has not made the sound business decision to increase their sales volume by charging slightly more for their product and providing the end user with their own tuning abilities. For a company the size of FIM this would entail nothing more than hiring one sound programmer at 80k per year. I guarantee that they would return their investment 10 fold. Now that is a ROI if I have ever seen one.
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Point is, I cant beleive that FIM has not made the sound business decision to increase their sales volume by charging slightly more for their product and providing the end user with their own tuning abilities. For a company the size of FIM this would entail nothing more than hiring one sound programmer at 80k per year. I guarantee that they would return their investment 10 fold. Now that is a ROI if I have ever seen one.
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First I have to say that you are doing exactly what I am doing exept for that I dont have the computer knowledge as you have and my bike has a 5,9 ECU so I use PC3.

Well FIM dont have to employ a programmer at 80k per year. The software is here
http://www.fuelinmoto.com.au/
since a long time.

The problem is that it is 1500 dollars. What they should do is to includ it with the ECU. If they dont want everyone to have it they can easyly make a software key per ECU and include. Problem solved.

Jocke........