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Old 04-06-2006, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezmo
but this is a rolling patch, not constant....if you couldnt change a contact patch's path, no vehicle would turn
True but my front wheel does not go move left of the bikes CoG when I turn right. Instead the bikes CoG goes to the right. Same thing from different view points. You are viewing the bike as the stationary object ... it is not in the real world.
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I think we are in agreement on several factors here actually...I just dont think you give the gyroscopic forces enough credit
Quite possible.

Another interesting site: http://www.gyroscopes.org/behaviour.asp

The thing is that if you made the worlds lightest possible wheels and thus the minimal gyroscopic affect you would still be able to turn a bicycle or m/c. Thus I have to believe they affect how a bike turns, but do not initiate the turn, that is definitely done by altering the CoG of the bike and rider combination, causing the lean.

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